[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 152550] Drop the "Basic Fonts" option dialogs

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152550

Mike Kaganski <mikekaganski at hotmail.com> changed:

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--- Comment #4 from Mike Kaganski <mikekaganski at hotmail.com> ---
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #3)
> the template named "Default" isn't the default?

Exactly. And it should be renamed because of the confusion the name creates.

> And - can I select one of the templates as the default, then? I don't see
> any UI for that.

File->Templates->Manage Templates (also available from the "Templates" split
button in the Start Center), and right-click them there.

> > When no template is made
> > the default, LibreOffice uses some settings set in user preferences (like
> > the "Basic Fonts" discussed here, *one of* the functions of which is setting
> > this global user preference, or the user's locale, which defines the page
> > size). If those settings are not set (or even are impossible to set without
> > templates, which is true for most of the numerous document settings), some
> > hard-coded program defaults are used.
> 
> So, what's your opinion about this state of affairs? As opposed to, say,
> there _always_ being a default template in the user's profile (and if it's
> missing, one is generated when the module comes up, from hard-code values or
> from a default-of-default-templates that's not in the user's profile)

I don't see a problem in the status quo, specifically in this regard. As I
mention in bug 152551, not being forced to have a default template file makes
it possible to have some dynamic behavior, like page size dependent on the
locale. And allowing to set any template as default gives maximum flexibility.
IMO, it could only seem confusing because (1) the name of one of the templates
(#1 above), and (2) MS Office background.

> > These settings control these things:
> > ...
> > 2. <style:default-style style:family="paragraph"> element in
> > the current document;
> > 3. Properties of *some* user-visible pre-defined styles, like "Default
> > Paragraph Style" (which has internal name of "Standard").
> 
> Can you clarify the difference between (2.) and (3.)? Is (3.) outside of the
> current document? Is it in the default template, if one exists?

No, (3) is about several <style:style style:name="Foo"
style:family="paragraph"> in the current document. The only thing outside the
document is #1 (User defaults stored in registrymodifications.xcu).

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