[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 135501] Change the default UI (see comment 67)

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Fri May 13 09:02:06 UTC 2022


https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135501

--- Comment #94 from Eyal Rozenberg <eyalroz1 at gmx.com> ---
(In reply to John Mills from comment #93)
> There is very little doubt that having a 'ribbon' is a strategic benefit for
> LibreOffice.

John, why are you trying to present your position as the objective truth?

Many do not believe that having a ribbon is "strategically beneficial" for
LibreOffice. And many, or most, believe that having it as the default UI is
simply detrimental.

> I often think that some people here are so blinkered that they
> have no experience of supporting users that have only ever really used MSO
> as a desktop office client. This irrational 'hatred' for all things
> Microsoft is nonsensical.

These claims have already been rebutted on this very bug page, if not fully
refuted. Why do you insist on retreading this?

> In almost every review you find for Libreoffice you read a variation on the
> same theme, that it is a very powerful Office Suite, with good features but
> it looks ancient and people just generally don't really like the UI.

That's not true. Here's the first set of user reviews one finds on a search for
LibreOffice review (on DDG):

https://www.trustradius.com/products/libreoffice/reviews#reviews

Most reviewers there don't complain about the UI at all. Some do, but those
complaints are typically not "why isn't it like MSO". They include "UI not
tablet friendly" and "menus are outdated ... full featured [but] some tools are
buried within dialogs that you'd have to find under sub-sub-menus".

I'm not saying there are no reviews with the complaint you mention. The first
result on that search phrase is a PCMag review, which decries how LO's
interface isn't "modern and elegant" like MSO or Google Docs (which get much
higher review scores):

https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/libreoffice

But that's more the exception to the rule. Other reviews mention how you can
choose the UI type, and others simply don't bring this matter up at all. Some
more of the top search results for LO reviews:

https://www.techradar.com/reviews/libreoffice
https://www.lifewire.com/libreoffice-review-1356322


> Someone with some insight in TDF needs to seriously look at this issue and
> commit resources to resolve any perceived missing functionality with the
> notebook bar interface. 

Disagree.

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