[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 135501] Change the default UI (see comment 67)

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135501

--- Comment #103 from Eyal Rozenberg <eyalroz1 at gmx.com> ---
(In reply to Pedro from comment #102)
> I assume you haven't used other office suites in the past 15 years, because
> since then every LibreOffice alternative uses a tabbed UI similar to the
> Ribbon UI from MS Office.

Actually, most LO alternatives (as listed on Wikipedia)  _don't_ use a tabbed
interface:

* KOffice - menus & toolbars (abandoned in 2015 but you said past 15 years)
* AbiWord - menus & toolbars (although it's just a Writer alternative)
* Calligra - toolbar and vertical-tabbed sidebar
* NeoOffice - menus & toolbars

and the only one on that list with tabs seems to be OnlyOffice. If you count
commercial office suites, you do find more ribbons (SoftMaker, OfficeSuite,
WPS), but then there's also iWork with its minimalist interface (I believe
they're not hiding tabs but feel free to correct me). So, with the commercial
ones, you still only get to, say, around half. Not "every" alternative".

> Furthermore, the users whose experience you want
> to defend actually do have problems in adapting from a Ribbon UI to the
> Standard Toolbar.

There is some adaptation, granted; but as discussed above - the adaptation is
important and beneficial.

> Just go to any comment section of a LibO release to notice that.

That, of course, would be a biased sample. Users do not post "I just thought
you should know I don't have a problem with menus".

> The Standard UI is a fossil from a different computing era.

Well, it seems that statistically, that's not actually the case; and you've
only based this statement on the statistical claim.

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