[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 151377] ENHANCEMENT: Collapse or hide toggle for individual effect details in animation sidebar

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Mon Oct 10 14:17:43 UTC 2022


https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151377

--- Comment #6 from Telesto <telesto at surfxs.nl> ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #4)
> Added a splitter between the list of used and available animations to
> resolve bug 145028 and bug 145037. You can show more than 8 items. => WFM

The splitter does technically work, but it still feels like the "wrong"
(workflow/esthetical) solution for the issue .. So this keeps nagging/hunting
me.

* If you drag the insert animation panel down to the bottom, you can't pick it
up anymore, if the sidebar being on minimum size (because of a horizontal
scrollbar at the bottom). But the horizontal scrollbar shouldn't be present at
the first place, I guess (larger minimum size of the sidebar) so maybe
unrelated to this
* You don't need the 'Insert Effects' part of the sidebar at all, if you you
want to rearrange the inserted effects... You don't want to reduce the size of
the insert animation, you actually want to hide that part of the panel
temporally. 
* Dragging it down to the bottom, and restoring it by dragging it up again, is
bit of unusual. At some points some elements of the panel disappear. I actually
would have expected a minimum size. It shouldn't be possible to hide controls
out of sight this way. 
* Sliding the panel out of sight, seems to be slightly inconsistent with the
approach at the properties deck of the sidebar (collapse/expand).
 * It pretty hidden feature. 

I admit that position the up/down buttons & delete button for sorting effects
being a problem when considering collapsible regions.

Obviously also fixable (here we go again with scope extension). Sorting
animations should - in my opinion - be have the same workflow/design as the
slide sorter bar. Consistent design for same type of actions. And well comfort.
The slide sorter bar being the superior design, in my view.

The Slide sorter bar has no visual buttons for arranging or adding slides. 
Arranging or adding or deleting slides is done by Drag & Drop (and/or) Keyboard
Control (and/or) Context Menu

And well - lets face it - the 'Add' button is on weird place anyhow, at least
in my workflow. When I insert an animation effect, work the dialog from top to
bottom. First setting the category, next the effect, Next start, and duration..
(mouse being at the bottom of the sidebar panel). Now I have the do large mouse
movement, to move the add button. I would expect somewhere near the bottom to
finish it. Apply/OK buttons are also at the bottom of the dialog, not at the
left right corner of dialog window (or the title bar).

I always experience it as rather counter-intuitive/ un-logical/ unnatural.

The position of the 'add' button is the outcome of a concession. You get to
this if you assume those buttons (delete/move up/down) being a necessity. Those
buttons do control the effect list (so below the effect list makes sense). Also
Add/delete are the opposite of each other (so combined location seems sensible)
And well up/down buttons need a place too.

The fact that I think I know why current design being as it is, doesn't improve
practical usage..

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