[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 153106] Revert commit of Bug 91415 - Scale Calc's comment indicator with zoom level (please, do not)

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153106

--- Comment #11 from ady <adylo811517 at gmail.com> ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #10)
> Do I understand that the commit, that is asked to be reverted, does not make
> things worse or better for your use


It makes things worse, not better. And this is not just my use case; it is that
those users with the original request as in Bug 91415 are simply unaware of the
usage or existence of the zoom feature.

The zoom feature's whole purpose is to allow changing the clearance distance
between screen artifacts. If you cannot read clearly, if the lines that form a
character are "too-crowded", if two independent items on screen are "too-close"
to each-other, use a higher zoom factor: the lines and other items look more
distant between each-other and you can distinguish between them. Being visually
challenged, I don't have a choice but to be aware of this feature, and I'm
thankful for it.

This is one of the things that can be seen in attachment 185187. Using a higher
zoom factor, the cell's content grows, while the traditional comment indicator
remains as it was (i.e. relatively smaller). This is a good thing.

The other thing that can be seen in attachment 185187 is that the comment
indicator newly introduced (for LO 7.6alpha+) is not better than the
traditional one. I can argue, based on those screenshots, that it takes more
screen area, not less, and by scaling it, users are less able to distinguish
things apart, since the clearance distance is not higher/better (precisely
because of the new scaling). The comment indicator will no longer be relatively
smaller when zooming in (or at least not as much), so the main purpose of the
zoom feature is lost for this item, while the original problem is not
completely gone.

Additionally, IIUC this change requires more graphic resources. Please someone
clarify this for me: What exactly is the positive consequence or advantage of
scaling the comment indicator? Isn't the built-in zoom feature already
available and already solving the original problem?


> 
> And that better use of zoom will help people with the use of the old version
> of the indicator?


Yes. In LO. In AOo. In any spreadsheet program since they use GUIs including
zoom features, it has been this way. For those users that are aware of this
feature, there is no reason to request to solve this non-issue.


> 
> You know that explaining features in documentation, has it's limitation in
> effect.. ;)


As an example, we see complaints about Cal's accuracy of calculations several
times a year, every year. The typical reply is "read this or that wiki page, or
help page, or...". For almost every little thing that users don't know yet, we
are instructed/hinted/pointed to some document, or to some ask.lo.org, or to
some email, or... Nothing new.

As another example, there have been many requests to allow changing the font
type and font size in/of the formula bar, or even of the whole UI in LO. The
formula bar can be a _real_ permanent problem (I know it is for me). Yet, since
the time the built-in option to scale the UI was gone, the answer has been "use
your OS's scaling and zoom features".

In the case of the comment indicator, with a minor and temporal issue for some
user in some circumstance, users will be happy to know that there is a simple
solution already available (in addition to being able to hide all the comment
indicators, also already available).

Having an adequate documentation about the built-in zoom features in Calc – bug
153108, although it is a bit vague ATM – and use-cases for it, will help users
be aware of it.

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