[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 153727] Calc inputwin for formula bar using system font, too small for CJK input

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153727

--- Comment #9 from ady <adylo811517 at gmail.com> ---
(In reply to Adolfo Jayme Barrientos from comment #7)
>  I’d
> rather have it follow whatever font and size it’s used in the currently
> selected cell

That's a terrible idea. A user might have a bigger font in one cell just as a
Title or Caption, and a variety of font sizes for other cells, such as those
less important, those that include totals... Every user might have different
reasons to customize the cells in different ways. But that is not the same as
the usage of the formula bar. I can't imagine having the formula bar changing
for each cell; that would be chaotic, and eventually nobody would change any
cell's font at all? No, they won't use LO Calc.


(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #8)
> Meaning that in Win10/Win11 from Windows Settings -> Display -> 'Make text
> bigger' and drag the size slider greater or smaller.


I already have that setting modified in the OS. As a user, I set it in some
"balance" point, where I can read clearly _every_ aspect of the OS interface.
If I have to set it even bigger, just for the formula bar, it would make some
other places in my OS "too big" and it won't fit in the place where it allows
me to see the complete text (i.e. part of it will be hidden by other
artifacts).

Other widgets in LO might be more static, either in place or in content to be
read. I don't need to read the title of a dialog window every single time, and
it doesn't change every time either. Same for icons and alike. The content of
the formula bar changes for every cell, sometimes with very large formulas.

For most Calc users that come here to either report problems or request the
possibility of customization of the formula bar, the matter is not about
changing some OS setting (zoom, dpi, screen resolution, font size). We already
do all this, and the settings for the OS are not all about the formula bar in
Calc; there are other factors to consider.

If there is some objective impediment to have the formula bar customization
regarding font type and size, then please say so. You are of course welcome to
suggest other possibilities such as OS customization. But please don't take
that possibility as the ultimate best and only solution available, because it
is not. I know because I already use such possibilities, and I still have
problems with the formula bar (which is why I use the OS zoom every time I need
to read a long formula, where using F2 is not always the best alternative, for
several reasons).

And after saying that, clearly the OP is presenting an additional point.
Changing OS settings will affect everything, not just the formula bar when it
contains CTL glyphs. Making _everything_ bigger just because such situation?
Then you would have other users claiming that there is too much empty space, or
fonts too big. Oh, how they would dare!

With so many reports asking for some kind of modification in the formula bar,
in one direction or another, or to solve some quirk or glitch, I don't see how
the request can be still discarded as some meaningless "nice to have" feature.
This is not just "nice to have". This is not "I just like some different color,
just for fun". This is a functional, practical, UX, efficiency-related and
accessibility request. And to that, add the CTL problem presented in this bug
report.

> Of course what would be helpful is ability to assign both a font (other than
> os/DE system) and a font size to the "input bar", see also bug 88141 and bug
> 95406
> 
> Or more broadly reintroduction of support for global LibreOffice UI scaling
> as for bug 101646

I don't see as many reports about problems or RFE regarding the _whole_ UI
scale as there are regarding the formula bar specifically. I could be wrong.

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