[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 156087] Add an "all pages" view mode to Draw to scroll through all pages in canvas (without needing Page Pane)

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Wed Jul 5 21:41:42 UTC 2023


https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156087

--- Comment #9 from Eyal Rozenberg <eyalroz1 at gmx.com> ---
(In reply to Kristopher Thomas from comment #0)
> TL;DR - my LibreOffice Draw opens .pdfs but only detects and displays the
> first page, sometimes cutting off the bottom.

1. Draw detects all pages.
2. Draw displays one page at a time, since it's an editor for drawings - not
for multi-page documents fundamentally. The mental model of a Draw document is
like a painter's carrying case for their (one-page) drawings.
3. I can't reproduce the "cutting off the bottom"; and - that would be a
separate bug. So, let's ignore that part in this bug, and please post the
separate bug if you can provide reproduction instructions for it, ignoring
there the issue of multiple pages.

> I need a .pdf editor that can work with full .pdfs ...  I
> switched to LibreOffice and it's been fine, until I started working with
> .pdfs. They open in Draw (not sure if that's the right app, but that's what
> happens) 

The document you attached should be opened in Writer, not in Draw. It is the
Writer module of LO which should handle documents which constitute a sequence
of pieces of textual-ish content across multiple pages rather than distinct
pages. The "problem" is that LO defaults to opening PDFs in Draw, and almost
hides the fact that you can open them otherwise. You can! - but you need to
explicitly choose the PDF-in-Writer import filter. See also:

Bug 141732: Each module should default to its own PDF import filter

When you open your file in Writer, you will be faced with other deficiencies of
LO (Writer) as a PDF editor: Writer does not make any attempt to constitute
text paragraphs and other sequential structure; see bug 151577 and bug 32249
among others.

> I used Open Office for years, but the lack of .docx support was something I
> could no longer accept (my school and work won't accept .doc WIN97 files).

OpenOffice is essentially an abandoned project, and has been for many years.
It's good that you switched.


Considering what I said above, I believe this bug is either a dupe of 141732
(in the sense that solving that one will essentially get you a PDF opening in a
module in which you can scroll among the pages), or INVALID.

Having said that - it _is_ a UX problem IMHO that when you open a multi-page
PDF in Draw, you are not guaranteed to see at least one of the Navigator and
the Pages pane. Or something close to that, making it clear how you could see
the other pages.

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