[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 153903] "Category and Number" and "Caption Text" in Cross-reference variable dialog are limited to fixed structural relations

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153903

sdc.blanco at youmail.dk changed:

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--- Comment #3 from sdc.blanco at youmail.dk ---
Asking for UXEval, because of comment 1.

And in relation to the following:

1. Main "problem" is that there is no markup for "Caption text".

This issue is already raised somewhat in bug 148597, and according to bug
148597, comment 19  this issue is already on the UXEval agenda. Attachment
185881 in bug 148597, comment 20 elaborates the issues even further.  But
cross-referencing is not mentioned in bug 148597 or the attachment,  so maybe a
note about cross-referencing could be added in an appropriate place?

2. Main purpose of the present ticket was to highlight this current
behavior/limitation in cross-references. If that limitation is added somewhere
in the previous tickets, then this ticket could be converted into a
documentation ticket, which could be easily resolved and closed.

Slight changes in the documentation [1] can give accurate information about
"expected" behavior (without mentioning the structural requirement explicitly). 

There are three changes in particular. Current text between dashed lines,
followed by proposed change.

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Category and Number

Inserts the category (caption type) and the number of the reference target.
This option is only available when the reference target is an object with a
caption.
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Propose: 
Inserts the caption category and caption number (or number range variable name
and value). Any text between the category and number (or variable name and
value) is also inserted.  This option is available for all number range
variables,  which includes caption numbers.

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Caption Text

Inserts the caption label of the reference target. This option is only
available when the reference target is an object with a caption.
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Propose:

Insert all text that follows the caption category and caption number until end
of paragraph. This option is available for all number range variables, which
includes caption numbers.

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Numbering

Inserts the caption number of the reference target. This option is only
available when the reference target is an object with a caption.
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Propose:

"Numbering" -> "Number" 

Inserts number range value. This option is available for all number range
variables, which includes caption numbers.

About name change:
1.  A little more in parallel with "Category and Number" and "Caption Text", as
well as ...
2.  ... "Caption Number", which  was considered and rejected, because the
critical feature is "number range" variable, which does not have to be used
only in captions.
3.  Perhaps someone thought "Numbering" should be different for "Number" (which
appears for Headings and Numbered Paragraphs)? But use context should
disambiguate, similarly for help page, where the context is explicitly
mentioned. 


[1] https://help.libreoffice.org/7.6/en-US/text/swriter/01/04090002.html

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