[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 156089] When the dialog customizes the Numbering type to "None", it still keeps the prefix/suffix, which need to be removed separately

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Thu Nov 23 20:40:59 UTC 2023


https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156089

Eyal Rozenberg <eyalroz1 at gmx.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|RESOLVED                    |UNCONFIRMED
         Resolution|NOTABUG                     |---
           Keywords|                            |needsUXEval
                 CC|                            |hossein at libreoffice.org,
                   |                            |libreoffice-ux-advise at lists
                   |                            |.freedesktop.org

--- Comment #13 from Eyal Rozenberg <eyalroz1 at gmx.com> ---
I'm returning to this bug after several months, so let me add a bit more info,
plus reply to multiple comments. 

So, first piece of info: We get this undesirable behavior when pressing the
(already-pressed) numbering button on the toolbar. It's one thing not to clear
the Prefix and Suffix values in the dialog - but when the user presses the
already-pressed numbering button, they express a clear intent of wanting to
remove the numbering completely - certainly not to leave behind a suffix and
prefix.

So, it turns out that the prefix and suffix do disappear, if you choose
"Graphic" or "Bullet" for example, accept, then open the dialog again. That
means that we don't strongly hold on to these settings anyway.


(In reply to Justin L from comment #1)
> I assume this document expresses what you are describing.

Only in the sense that it has Heading numbering with a suffix. But the text of
the document doesn't.

(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #11)
> We discussed the topic in the design meeting. Following the comments here we
> agree on the WF/NAB verdict.

Let's quote the design meeting comments supporting this conclusion:

>   + works like in MSO, WF (Justin)
>   + no reason to block, WF (Heiko)
>   + behavior existing for years shouldn't change without
>     good reasons (Hossein)
>   + list style is something you shouldn't change multiple times
>   => resolve WF 

Justin has changed his opinion (making it a draw in terms of people involved in
the discussion).

I didn't understand Heiko's comment - block what?

Re Hossein's comment: It's a long-standing bug, which has annoyed users for all
this time, at least in the toolbar button use-case I mentioned above.

Re the last comment: That argument works both ways: If you don't do this a lot,
you shouldn't mind typing in your suffixes or prefixes. Also, we actually do
remove numbering multiple times using the toolbar button (as opposed to
fiddling with list style specifics).


So I am un-resolving. Also, we now have a third possible resolution: Different
behavior when selecting None in the dialog and when pressing the numbering
button on the toolbar. We can have the former maintain and the latter drop the
prefix and suffix.

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