[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 157580] Allow notebookbar and groupedbarcompact groups sections to be shown/hidden based on available space instead of only their order

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Tue Oct 24 15:06:30 UTC 2023


https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157580

Stéphane Guillou (stragu) <stephane.guillou at libreoffice.org> changed:

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--- Comment #6 from Stéphane Guillou (stragu) <stephane.guillou at libreoffice.org> ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #3)
> Shuffling the current widget/group order based on available width seems like
> a recipe for chaotic UI experience--better to keep the sequence static--
> tolerate the empty space on the MUFFIN NB.  Even though some lower priority
> widgets might fit. 
> Adjusting the intentionally lightweight MUFFIN NB framework to allow users
> to set sequence and priority of exposed widgets could be a Customization
> feature. Current customization is limited to expose/hide toggle per widget.

Good point. Reordering is not ideal and could make things confusing.
Customising the order would help, but reordering elements in the Customize
dialog currently has no effect (see bug 140140).

Regardless, the bad use of space remains an issue and I imagine looks like bad
design to many. I strongly agree with Jeff that the default behaviour needs
improving.

So my current suggestion / summary would be to have a guideline like:
- Tab sections should be less than X pixels in width;
- If a tab section is more than X pixels, it needs to have an alternative view
that can reduce it to below the limit.

For the particular case of the Styles preview, we have mentioned two options
for the alternative "low width" mode:
- Jeff's suggestion: dropdown button to reveal the full preview
- My suggestion: reduced number of columns

Note that MS Office 365 (online) does _both_ of the above suggestions for its
Styles widget: it will first reduce the number of columns, then convert it to a
single button to pop down the full widget.

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