Hi Bjoern, <div class="gmail_quote">2012/5/20 Bjoern Michaelsen <<a href="mailto:bjoern.michaelsen@canonical.com" target="_blank">bjoern.michaelsen@canonical.com</a>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi all, On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 03:44:09PM +0200, Alexander Wilms wrote: > here's the Wiki page: <a href="https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Ubuntu_Templates" target="_blank">https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Ubuntu_Templates</a> I assume the development has moved elsewhere in the meantime? </blockquote><div> Kind of. There's a call for CC0/public domain templates going on right now at <a href="https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Call_for_Templates">https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Call_for_Templates</a> . The CC0 license has been chosen to allow for any use of the templates (without the presenter having to mention the author's name or being restricted by copyleft or into using the templates with only our software). </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> Anyway, upstream feature freeze for 3.6 is closing (2012-06-04) in: <a href="http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan#3.6_release" target="_blank">http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan#3.6_release</a> so I would like to have integrated whatever we have right now and replace the old default masterpages with them, because frankly: they are _really_ ugly. I am talking about these: <a href="http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/extras/source/templates/layout/" target="_blank">http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/extras/source/templates/layout/</a> </blockquote><div>I agree. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> @Alexander Wilms: The typography templates at <a href="http://templates.libreoffice.org/template-center/typography" target="_blank">http://templates.libreoffice.org/template-center/typography</a> look beautiful and I would like to make them a replacement for the biggest and most ugly of the current templates, which are: 1.1M May 19 21:57 extras/source/templates/layout/lyt-book.otp 706K May 19 21:57 extras/source/templates/layout/lyt-forest.otp 690K May 19 21:57 extras/source/templates/layout/lyt-paper.otp 639K May 19 21:57 extras/source/templates/layout/lyt-glacier.otp 638K May 19 21:57 extras/source/templates/layout/lyt-wine.otp which in all their ugliness do not justify the space they eat in the default install. Any objections to that?</blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> Do we have any more masterpages we could use to replace the ones above? As frankly, the current ones are _really_ ugly -- so even if want you have is not perfect, it is likely better than what we would ship with now (after replacing the above 5 templates there would still be 25 of the old ones left). </blockquote><div> Take a look at the wiki page mentioned above: <a href="https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Call_for_Templates#Submissions">https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Call_for_Templates#Submissions</a> These should all be licensed under CC0. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> The "vintage", "fresh and serious", "Rounded Rectagles" and "Hexagons" templates do not look too bad too me. Does anybody know the authors and can ping them if it is ok to directly include their work under MPL/LGPLv3+? </blockquote><div> I believe most of that (except "Rounded Rectangles") is Alex's work, too. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> Best, Bjoern P.S.: At UDS we talked about moving "our" templates to an universe package. Back then I was talking about these templates: <a href="http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-openoffice/libreoffice.git;a=tree;f=ubuntu;h=4d6fb808aed6d29944bc4980aae9ce3401e85ec1;hb=refs/heads/ubuntu-oneiric-3.4" target="_blank">http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-openoffice/libreoffice.git;a=tree;f=ubuntu;h=4d6fb808aed6d29944bc4980aae9ce3401e85ec1;hb=refs/heads/ubuntu-oneiric-3.4</a> however, given how ugly and big these upstream masterpages are: 506K May 19 21:57 extras/source/templates/layout/lyt-keyboard.otp 496K May 19 21:57 extras/source/templates/layout/lyt-water.otp 491K May 19 21:57 extras/source/templates/layout/lyt-rededges.otp 321K May 19 21:57 extras/source/templates/layout/lyt-numdark.otp 306K May 19 21:57 extras/source/templates/layout/lyt-techpoly.otp 286K May 19 21:57 extras/source/templates/layout/lyt-bluegrey.otp we could replace those 6 upstream with the ones from Ubuntu (excluding the explicitly Ubuntu-branded one), which are not exactly beautiful, but better that the defaults upstream. With that we would have 11 new masterpages upstream (leaving us with 25-11=14 old ones we would still need to replace). Opinions? </blockquote><div> I'm all for it, though we would need to convince the authors to release these under CC0. </div></div>