<div dir="ltr">Hi Samuel,<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Samuel Mehrbrodt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:s.mehrbrodt@gmail.com" target="_blank">s.mehrbrodt@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>

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    Hi,<br>
    <br>
    thanks for your comments. I'll remove the options to link gallery
    images and also try to build an extension.<br>
    <br>
    I think I'll then leave the bullets there until they are replaced by
    some up-to-date ones.<br>
    <br>
    For the "Add" button in the bullets and numbering dialog, we could
    make an easy hack out of that. But the question then is, are these
    images stored globally or only for the current document?<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Ideally, there should be a "LibreOffice Bullets" section with the globally-stored bullets and a "Document Bullets" section below with all the bullets present in the document except those shipped by default.<br>
</div><div>Instead of an "Add" button, it should be a "Custom graphic..." button, which would add the bullet to the "Document Bullets" section.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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    <br>
    Samuel<br>
    <br>
    <div>Am <a href="tel:26.07.2013%2013" value="+12607201313" target="_blank">26.07.2013 13</a>:42, schrieb Mirek M.:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi Samuel,<br>
        <div>
          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
            <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:30 PM,
              Samuel Mehrbrodt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:s.mehrbrodt@gmail.com" target="_blank">s.mehrbrodt@gmail.com</a>></span>
              wrote:<br>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
                <br>
                I created a patch that removes the outdated Gallery
                images: <a href="https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/4993" target="_blank">https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/4993</a><br>
                Now there were some objections because of breaking old
                documents (when people have linked content from the
                gallery into their documents).<br>
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              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Could you remove the GUI for linking Gallery images?
                (I notice that the choice is presented via a right-click
                menu and in the "Bullets and Numbering" dialog, but
                perhaps there are other choices?)<br>
                Documents should never rely on stuff shipped with
                LibreOffice. If they do, the user will sooner or later
                be stuck on an outdated version of LibreOffice.<br>
              </div>
              <div><br>
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                Also I removed the bullets which are used in the
                "Bullets and Numbering" dialog.<br>
              </blockquote>
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                <br>
                You can some opinions on the thread on the Dev list
                here: <a href="http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Comment-on-patch-quot-Remove-old-outdated-gallery-images-and-sounds-quot-td4066477.html" target="_blank">http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Comment-on-patch-quot-Remove-old-outdated-gallery-images-and-sounds-quot-td4066477.html</a><br>


                <br>
                Now the questions are:<br>
                - Is it ok to break old documents by removing these
                images from the galleries?<br>
              </blockquote>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Yes, but it might be good to provide an option to get
                the graphics via an extension. Would that be possible?<br>
                <br>
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                - Do we also want to remove the sounds?<br>
              </blockquote>
              <div><br>
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              <div>I would say yes, but again, would be good to have an
                extension to bring them back for those who unwisely
                linked them.<br>
              </div>
              <div> </div>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                - Do we also want to remove the whole "Graphical
                bullets" feature?<br>
              </blockquote>
              <div><br>
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              <div>No. I can imagine graphical bullets being useful [1],
                but it'd be good to have a GUI for importing them. A
                simple "Add..." button in the Graphic bullets section in
                LibreOffice would suffice.<br>
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                <br>
                Please share your thoughts.<br>
                <br>
                Thanks<br>
                Samuel<br>
              </blockquote>
            </div>
            <br>
            [1] Here's someone asking how to import their own bullets: <a href="http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/2280" target="_blank">http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/2280</a><br>
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    <br>
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</blockquote></div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Samuel Mehrbrodt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:s.mehrbrodt@gmail.com" target="_blank">s.mehrbrodt@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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    Hi,<br>
    <br>
    thanks for your comments. I'll remove the options to link gallery
    images and also try to build an extension.<br>
    <br>
    I think I'll then leave the bullets there until they are replaced by
    some up-to-date ones.<br>
    <br>
    For the "Add" button in the bullets and numbering dialog, we could
    make an easy hack out of that. But the question then is, are these
    images stored globally or only for the current document?<br>
    <br>
    Samuel<br>
    <br>
    <div>Am <a href="tel:26.07.2013%2013" value="+12607201313" target="_blank">26.07.2013 13</a>:42, schrieb Mirek M.:<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">Hi Samuel,<br>
        <div>
          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
            <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:30 PM,
              Samuel Mehrbrodt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:s.mehrbrodt@gmail.com" target="_blank">s.mehrbrodt@gmail.com</a>></span>
              wrote:<br>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
                <br>
                I created a patch that removes the outdated Gallery
                images: <a href="https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/4993" target="_blank">https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/4993</a><br>
                Now there were some objections because of breaking old
                documents (when people have linked content from the
                gallery into their documents).<br>
              </blockquote>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Could you remove the GUI for linking Gallery images?
                (I notice that the choice is presented via a right-click
                menu and in the "Bullets and Numbering" dialog, but
                perhaps there are other choices?)<br>
                Documents should never rely on stuff shipped with
                LibreOffice. If they do, the user will sooner or later
                be stuck on an outdated version of LibreOffice.<br>
              </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                Also I removed the bullets which are used in the
                "Bullets and Numbering" dialog.<br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                <br>
                You can some opinions on the thread on the Dev list
                here: <a href="http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Comment-on-patch-quot-Remove-old-outdated-gallery-images-and-sounds-quot-td4066477.html" target="_blank">http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Comment-on-patch-quot-Remove-old-outdated-gallery-images-and-sounds-quot-td4066477.html</a><br>

                <br>
                Now the questions are:<br>
                - Is it ok to break old documents by removing these
                images from the galleries?<br>
              </blockquote>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Yes, but it might be good to provide an option to get
                the graphics via an extension. Would that be possible?<br>
                <br>
              </div>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                - Do we also want to remove the sounds?<br>
              </blockquote>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>I would say yes, but again, would be good to have an
                extension to bring them back for those who unwisely
                linked them.<br>
              </div>
              <div> </div>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                - Do we also want to remove the whole "Graphical
                bullets" feature?<br>
              </blockquote>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>No. I can imagine graphical bullets being useful [1],
                but it'd be good to have a GUI for importing them. A
                simple "Add..." button in the Graphic bullets section in
                LibreOffice would suffice.<br>
              </div>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                <br>
                Please share your thoughts.<br>
                <br>
                Thanks<br>
                Samuel<br>
              </blockquote>
            </div>
            <br>
            [1] Here's someone asking how to import their own bullets: <a href="http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/2280" target="_blank">http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/2280</a><br>
          </div>
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    <br>
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