<div dir="ltr">Hi Emir,<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br>On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Emir Yāsin SARI <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bitigchi@me.com" target="_blank">bitigchi@me.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hello,<div><br></div><div>I'd like to point out some ideas of mine for the new start center as well,</div> <div><br></div><div>1. Tabs labeled All, Documents, Spreadsheets etc. would look better if they are located right under the window bar, currently they look like they've been pressed down by the Open/Templates buttons and LibreOffice logo area. </div> </div></blockquote><div><br>+1<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>2. Changing the application background colour from settings change the SC background as well as usual, and LibreOffice logo looks bad under certain colours, not readable at all. Personally I am not sure if we ever need a LO logo for the Start Center, it just takes up space.</div> </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>+1 to getting rid of the logo<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"> <div>3. Info, Get Templates, Get Extensions buttons should be located on the lower corner, not upper. Again waste of space.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Not sure if these are relevant here as well.<br>Get Templates would be better off in the Template manager, Get Extensions in the Extension manager, and it's enough to have Info, which just links to the homepage, in the About dialog.<br> </div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>4. Open/Templates buttons are very very big, and they look very alienated on OS X. Have no idea about the other platforms.</div> </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Ideally, these should be toolbar buttons, as in the proposal. [1]<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>5. New document buttons under the tabs are also very big, they do not look native, and they leave very valuable space wasted on the right side of the buttons. Same case for the small buttons under the All Recent tab.</div> </div></blockquote><div><br>+1<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"> <div>6. Also mentioned here before, Recent Documents are would offer more file manager capabilities, basic functions like longer file names, ability to drag&drop, a search bar, and a system right click context menu!</div> </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The long-term goal for the Start Center, at least how I envision it, is similar to that of mobile/web applications or Apple's Document Library [2]: have an application-specific file browser with a simple one-level folder hierarchy with the primary function of finding and opening a file, not "managing" it.<br> </div><div><br>Based on that, drag-and-drop, to me, makes only sense in terms of grouping documents into folders, in a similar way to the way folders work on the Android or iOS homescreen or in Apple's Document Library. Did you mean that or did you have something else in mind?<br> A search bar makes sense as well.<br></div><div>Instead of a right-click system menu, I'd prefer to reserve the right click for selection, as is the behavior of the new kind of Windows 8 apps and the new Gnome apps (Documents, Clocks, ...). By selecting something, the toolbar should change to present selection-relevant commands, which is the same as you'd expect from a right-click menu, with the advantage of being more discoverable and touch-accessible.<br> </div><div><br>Also, what exactly do you mean by "Longer file names"? Does the current implementation not allow long filenames? Or do you mean showing the whole file name no matter how long it is?<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>7. When a recent document is opened, window should maximise itself by default, at least there should be an option to maximise the window automatically, a normal user would probably maximise the window area after opening a document.</div> </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This setting should be saved with the document. It should have nothing to do with the Start Center. <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div> </div> <div>8. As a long term goal, it would be better to merge templates window into the start center.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It'd be good if these two could share as much as possible, though I'm not 100% sure they should be merged. I have no idea about the technical aspects, though, so I don't have an educated opinion on this.<br> </div><div><br>[1] <a href="https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Start_Center#Proposal_by_Mirek2">https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Start_Center#Proposal_by_Mirek2</a><br>[2] <a href="http://ia.net/blog/mountain-lions-new-file-system/">http://ia.net/blog/mountain-lions-new-file-system/</a><br> </div></div></div></div>