minutes of ESC call ...

[Michael Meeks]

* Present:
	+ Eike, Stephan, Norbert, Michael, Andras, Rainer, David,
	  Caolan, Petr, Markus, Cedric, Kendy, Fridrich

* Completed Action items
	+ Add GSOC tasks to the wiki:
		+ l/strace-alike for UNO (Stephan)
			+ switched for two other better uno related tasks
		+ wrapper for MS compiler for autotools usage (Norbert)
		+ table styles (Cedric)
		+ calc filters performance improvements (Kohei & Markus)
		+ refactor god objects (Bjoern)
		+ Publisher importer + one other (Fridrich)
		+ add specific writer / layout unit test task (Cedric / Michael S.)
			+ dropped for now

* Pending Action Items
	+ [still pending] extract 64bit build hardware from firewall (Kendy / Admins)
	+ rename VCL API to make it GetBeamerFoo & fix (Michael)
	+ [ongoing] respond in the gerrit bug fdo#44498 with some rational (Bjoern)
		+ call today on the topic
	+ Add GSOC tasks to the wiki:
	  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas
		+ multi-user / telepathy / co-editing (Eike)
			+ fwd. Eike Svante's proposal (Thorsen)
		+ layout / toolkit conversion task (Caolan)
		+ add graphical conditional formatting task (Kohei)
		+ bunch of ideas / slide-show re-work etc. (Thorsten)
		+ better template translation (Andras)
	+ take updated ESC composition to the board (Thorsten)

* Action Items review

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
	+ 3.5.1rc2 up-loaded, and trickling out to mirrors
		+ no blockers we know of (out mid next week)
	+ 3.4.6rc1 - is being up-loaded
		+ needs pushing to mirrors
		+ hope we won't need rc2 since it's a final release
		+ ie. should be back on schedule
	+ thanks for all the fixes & reviews !

* gerrit update (Norbert)
	+ got it up & running, going nicely, could run the same
	  workflow as today, still at the beginning.
	+ still working on it

* GSOC update (Cedric)
	+ deadline for beautiful tasks is tomorrow !

* QA update (Rainer)
	+ Bjoern stablishing a QA call every two weeks, call tomorrow
	+ goal - to learn more about / co-ordinate QA activities
	+ report after the call

* getting quite a lot of most-annoying bugs nominated (Petr)
	+ are we accepting rather less annoying bugs ?
	+ hard to judge, any bug is annoying
		- are they comparitively much more annoying ?
		- or is the reporter better at nominating
	+ concern wrt. too easy to nominate most annoying (Rainer)
		+ hard to get an overview
		+ how many 'really' most annoying
		+ lots of little annoyances, hard to see if they
		  affect many users.
	+ gained 8 fixed 4 in the last week (eg.)
	+ does it loose the function if there are too many ?
	+ monitor for next week (Rainer, Petr)

* cost and usefulness of exceptions (Michael)
	+ still pending analysis ...
AA:	+ post results shortly (Michael)
	+ concerns wrt. maintainability vs. code-size (Stephan)
	+ brought lots of code into exception-land (Caolan)
		+ need to post for compiler guys
		+ consider the costs in more detail & need review.

* regression analysis (Caolan)
	+ good number of regressions are in RTF
		+ new, better implementation there, exchanging a bus-load
		  of horrible, twisty bugs with shiny new regressions.
		+ with the hope that new code is easier to fix
	+ also a number of DOCX regression
		+ windows only - hard to collect trace
		+ an intermittent iterator incrementing crash

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
	+ 56 (of 153) open vs.: 52/145, 49/140, 44/132, 41/124, 32/104, 28/93, 21/76, 23/71
	        37%              36%     35%,    33%,    33%,    30%,    30%,   28%,   32%
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
	+ 116(+7) bugs open of 379(+20) total

	* Component    count net *
	+ Writer       - 51 (+4)
	+ LibreOffice  - 12 (+2)
	+ Spreadsheet  - 10 (+3)
	+ Presentation - 10 (+0)
	+ Drawing      - 9  (-1)
	+ Database     - 6  (+0)
	+ Basic        - 3  (+0)
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764

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