minutes of ESC call ...

Thu Mar 22 09:10:34 PDT 2012

* Present:
	+ Eike, Will, Michael, Norbert, Lionel, Kendy, Andras,
	  Markus, Rainer, Cedric, Mitch, Caolan, Petr, Bjoern

* Completed action items
        + Add GSOC tasks to the wiki:
          https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas
                + [ongoing, ETA today] multi-user / telepathy / co-editing (Eike)
                + better template translation (Andras)
	+ doodle poll for new ESC meeting (Eike)
		+ please fill out poll: http://moreganize.com/bgxbvmFxmDl (all)
        + respond in the gerrit bug fdo#44498 with some rational (Bjoern)
		+ Norbert sorting it out with Tollef, agreed in principle

* Pending Action Items
        + [ever-pending] extract 64bit build hardware from firewall (Kendy / Admins)
        + rename VCL API to make it GetBeamerFoo & fix (Michael)
        + [ongoing?] post results of exception analysis shortly (Michael)
        + [ongoing?] cost and usefulness of exceptions proposal (Michael)

* Action Items review

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
	+ 3.5.1 retrospective / review
		+ delayed by one week by misc. issues / build troubles
		+ important fixes added too late post rc1, requiring an rc3
		+ these things happen - no change to overall scheduling
        + 3.5.2 status ...
		+ rc1 is tagged / branched as libreoffice-3-5-2
			+ lots of bug fixes here.
		+ tripple review required for -3-5-2
        + 3.4.6 status
		+ released today, fixes security bug and a
		  number of other bits.

* GSOC update (Cedric)
	+ all (22) mentors named on the ideas page are registered
	+ students coming slowly, more encouragement / press required
	+ a number of private contacts to people
	+ can we improve communciations
AA:	+ Official TDF blog item announcing GSOC required (Fridrich)
	+ students have until near April 5th to apply ~two weeks.

* new Windows tinderbox (Norbert)
	+ expensive new hardware, from-clean compile in around an hour
	+ should be coming on line today
	+ previous fastest time was ~4 hours
	+ plans to work on ccache with windows (Norbert)
	+ Mac - similar duration, but with a warm ccache ~15mins, so
	  perhaps we can do better.

* Hamburg HackFest update (Bjoern)
	+ not so well publicised as all that
AA:	+ Hamburg Hack-fest in topic of IRC channel (Bjoern)
AA:	+ Hamburg Hack-fest mail the developers list (Bjoern)
AA:	+ blog some artwork for 'going to the LibreOffice hack-fest' (All)
		http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Hamburg2012
AA:	+ TDF blog entry publicising the Hamburg hack-fest (Fridrich)
	+ located at Chaos Computer Club's site
		+ the birth-place of Chaos
		+ an awesome place to get together
		+ see you there !
	+ mail: hackfest at libreoffice.org with travel funding requests.

* QA update (Rainer)
	+ mostly business as usual
		+ too few volunteers reviewing the incoming reports
		+ users using the bugzilla assistant are often quite
		  bad and need more review.
	+ QA team call tomorrow
		+ proposals to encourage good bug filers etc.
	+ Bugzilla assistant
		+ needs better introductory text, and fewer
		  version etc. fields
		+ more hackery much appreciated.
	+ annotate RTF bugs with 'rtf_filter' to break-down regressions
		+ ~20 of the writer regressions are RTF
	+ community bits (Bjoern)

* New ESC time (Eike)
	+ 14:00 UTC until futher daylight adjustments ie.
	  same localtime as before.

* Security list update (Michael)
	+ mozilla's bugzilla has security feature to hide bugs
	+ just because Apache are being awkward doesn't mean
	  we have to be too (Norbert)
	+ leave it as it is now, and await real incidents (Petr)
	+ officesecurity more attractive since it's easier (Bjoern)
	=> no action for now

* Collaboration hack-fest update (Eike)
	+ great strides made, got connections & data forwarding
	+ many thanks to Collabora's Will Thompson, hacking on
	  things left & right.
	+ splitting calc controller apart, looking forward to
	  Matus' input.

* Regressions
	+ Cedric doing some digging - one 'regression' for an
	  OpenOffice 2.0 feature, vs. 1.1 etc. not funny
		+ doing a review, unclear what's going on

* closing fixed bugs
	+ about 1/2 of the calc regressions are already fixed in 3.5
		+ 3.4.x will get no more updates
			+ no need to explain more, close them.
		+ some already re-opened because not fixed in 3.4.x
AA:		+ review and re-close these / discuss in QA call (Rainer)

* Hamburg Hack-fest
	+ will rock - couches available to 'surf' (sleep) on, and some cool
	  attendees already; please register if you're coming at:
	    http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Hamburg2012#Participants

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
	+ 58 (of 168): older 57/157 58/153 52/145 49/140 44/132 41/124 32/104 28/93 21/76 23/71
	     35%              36%    37%    36%    35%    33%    33%    30%    30%   28%   32%
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
	+ 131(+20) bugs open of 410(+26) total

	* Component    count net *
	+ Writer       - 63 (+16)
	+ LibreOffice  - 12 (+1)
	+ Presentation - 11 (+1)
	+ Spreadsheet  - 10 (+0)
	+ Drawing      - 10 (+1)
	+ Database     - 7  (+1)
	+ Basic        - 2  (+1)

	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764

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