minutes of ESC call ...
michael.meeks at suse.com
Thu Nov 15 08:33:49 PST 2012
+ Stephan, Bjoern, David, Joel, Eike, Kendy, Astron, Norbert,
Andras, Ahmad, Petr, Michael M, Cedric, Kohei, Michael S,
* Completed Action Items
+ bump versions sooner than later, to find hard-coded '3's (Petr)
+ font bundling and gerrit fun with Astron (Andras)
+ poke Astron / Alexander / Mirek wrt. ESC UI seat (Kendy)
+ poke board for new ESC compoosition (+Joel,+Tibby,+Ahmad,+Mirek) (Michael)
+ updated: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/ESC
+ provide a new palette based on Tango
+ punted until new color selector is in place ?
+ setup call for designs for FOSDEM T-shirts (Astron)
+ posted, awaiting input
+ review unity-menus branch as/when it's re-based (Michael)
+ code looks cool
* Pending Action Items
+ create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M)
+ minimal triage for good mentors for proposed easy hacks (Bjoern)
+ poke UX advise wrt. how to improve color management UI team (Markus)
+ issues to look into if we can
+ fdo#55360 - mac specific text issue (Thorsten)
+ grok the list of contributors for suitable certified hackers (Kendy)
+ work on mail to encourage them to get certified (Kendy/Stephan/Bjoern)
+ disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael)
* Release Engineering update (Petr)
+ 3.6.4 rc1 status
+ built, up-loaded, for announce @ weekend
+ deadline for rc2 - the week after: Nov 26th
+ triple review until then.
+ 3.7 timeline: Dec 3rd - week 47
+ feature-freeze ~2 weeks out.
+ Alpha 0 build planned beforehand to test build / pkg
* UX input (Astron)
+ improving the standard shape colors Alex's question on dev list
+ help appreciated.
+ T-shirt design challenge is running:
+ one promised as a prize
+ color picker prototype coming along nicely
+ help cleaning up new dialogs in glade much appreciated
+ install a master snapshot - look for '.ui' files
+ can be edited live.
+ should we just default disable the rulers ? (cf. gerrit patch)
AI: + consensus of UI team is to re-enable them by default (Kendy)
+ document recovery dialog changes ?
+ Kendy's initial thought - easy to fix quickly.
+ if able to split it into easy-hacks: good too.
+ not a real offer to spend too much time.
* Hack-fest next weekend: 23rd-25th ...
+ hope to see you there...
+ if people need travel subsidy to be there
please contact Thorsten.
* FOSDEM dev-room:
+ travel subsidy available
+ talks much appreciated, sign up early.
* CUPS - switching back to PDF output by default
+ discussion on the lists - decide next time.
* Certification Committee update (Kendy/Stephan/Bjoern)
+ no new people yet - building list for next week.
+ announcement received well
* 4.0 completed tasks:
+ binfilter - removed completely (Norbert)
+ removes legacy StarOffice 1.0->5.0 binary filters
+ leaves .sxw .sxi etc. zip formats
+ dropped migrationAnalysis (Norbert)
+ obsolete, not-built, code removed now
+ not removing Lotus Word Pro filter
+ no good technical reasons to.
+ should we switch to native gtk+/print for 4.0 ?
+ no: not complete for some features yet (Dtardon)
* 4.0 pending tasks
+ upgrade bundled python to 3.3 (Michael S)
+ compiling & delivering nicely on Linux
+ unbelievable complexity in delivering being fixed.
+ 40k lines of patches removed.
AI: + work ongoing, testing help appreciated for Mac (Norbert)
+ Mac / 10.4 / PPC dropping (Norbert)
+ need to drop it at some point; drop now
with deprecation ?
+ decided: deprecate 10.4/5 and raise base-line to 10.6
+ expect to drop PPC mac for 4.1
+ user migration path thought / testing (Petr)
+ simple linux migration works for release config.
=> can't be tested easily with daily builds
+ issues around dropping old user-install info wrt.
=> need to hack some more code in there.
+ drop legacy / STLport in 4.0 outright ? (Stephan)
+ keep it longer for back-compat ?
AI: + check that with latest DudenCorrector first (Kendy)
UWINAPI not needed - but latest ver. still links
+ decide: if ok with them -> drop stlport for 4.0
+ drop Mozilla mess in the tree:
* Proposed easy-hacks -> Easy Hacks (Joel)
+ developers need to decide what to do next
+ punting for a month until post Feature Freeze settle ?
+ re-visit finding devs to build code-pointers for these:
* Hard Hacks fixed with thanks:
+ fdo#49610 - EDITING: Terminating 'Find' when reached (Radek)
* Hard Hacks:
+ page updated
+ developers like the selection of hard hacks
+ fdo#52433 - MEMORY LEAK: particular .odt leading to crash after ...
+ well known image management is utterly shambolic disaster area.
+ best to remove from the list for now ...
* LibreOffice commit tweeter setup (Bjoern)
+ intended to tweet all our commits;
+ throttled by twitterfeed things to 5x every ~20 mins
+ (un)fortunately we often commit faster.
+ interesting nonetheless:
* QA update (Joel / Bjoern)
+ starting bi-weekly meetings again from tomorrow
+ Rainer started a nice todo list:
* Closed 3.7 MAB (with thanks)
+ fdo#57090 - UI: Buttons cut off in 'Insert Table' dialog (Caolan)
+ fdo#57092 - UI: cursor does not blink in ‘Name’ field (Caolan)
+ fdo#57046 - no windows tinderbox builds as of recently (Fridrich)
+ fdo#57051 - Mac builds don't start with liblangtag bustage (Caolan)
* Open 3.7 MAB / regressions [ there should be none ]:
+ 6 (of 21) older 4/18 3/16 3/14 2/13
+ fdo#53525 - 2 columns Table of contents exceeds page width ?
+ fdo#55563 - PPTX image background rendered incorrectly
+ fdo#55570 - significant autocorrect slow-down
+ fdo#57026 - particular .docx shows all text frames filling complete page size
+ fdo#57059 - crash when scroll down on (Writer) HELP contents
* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
+ 33 (of 150) older 34/148 35/145 33/139 30/132 27/127 44/139 46/137
22% 23% 24% 24% 23% 21% 32% 34%
* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
+ 65 (of 278) older 69/278 69/279 75/278 77/279 78/278 81/279 82/279
23% 25% 25% 27% 28% 28% 29% 29%
* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 186(+8) bugs open of 907(+16) total
* ~Component count net *
+ Writer - 80 (+6)
+ Presentation - 18 (+1)
+ Spreadsheet - 16 (+1)
+ Database - 16 (+0)
+ Crashes - 16 (-1)
+ Drawing - 12 (-1)
+ LibreOffice - 11 (-1)
+ Borders - 9 (+0)
+ Migration - 5 (+0)
+ Basic - 3 (+0)
+ Writer / RTF - 1 (+0)
+ Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489
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