minutes of ESC call ...

Michael Meeks michael.meeks at suse.com
Thu Sep 27 08:37:43 PDT 2012


* Present:
	+ Joel, Caolan, Stephan, Andras, Tibby, Michael M, Norbert,
	  Michael S, Kohei, Kendy, Fridrich, Bjoern, Cedric, Thorsten

* Completed Action Items
	+ gerrit - patch abandonment can only be done by owner or gerrit admin (Bjoern)
		+ apparently non-actionable
	+ get some more HardHacks (Joel)
	+ shrink Android Remote icon & integrate that (Andrzej Hunt)
	+ look at fdo#48366 - xlx import failure (Kohei)
	+ look at fdo#48692 - writer table corruption (Michael S)
	+ look at fdo#49819 - docx import failure (Michael M)

* Pending Action Items
	+ [pending] make bytemark windows box do release builds (Fridrich)
	+ Petr to decide release-schedule / overlap gap issue
	+ change to contract and OSL_TRACE for oob results in OUString::copy (Michael)
	+ look at fdo#44278 picture duplication on save (Cedric)
	+ look into fdo#54225, fdo#54744 PDF export regressions (Stephan)

* OUString cleanup ongoing
	+ no need to use rtl:: prefix anymore for OUString, OString
	  OStringToOUString, OUStringToOString

* Release Engineering update (Fridrich)
	+ 3.5.7 rc2 ?
		+ rc1 will be final, unless someone complains
		  no issues raised => go Tuesday.
		+ nominally the last release from this branch.
	+ 3.6.2 release status
		+ rc2 is out - only one known regression in
		  Windows custom install: bogus GNOME integration
		  option from Linux.
	+ Petr back next week.

* UI / design update (Kendy)
	+ discussion and mourning for death of impress pop-up actions
		+ toolbar will be moved to be nearby
	+ conditional dialog management issues - UX input pending ?

* gerrit configuration (Norbert)
	+ Tor requested branches that can't be deleted accidentally ?
	+ people can continue to use a private repo on freedesktop (Kohei)
		+ of course, for those with accounts.
	+ branches get synched to freedesktop.
	+ configuration tweak to add:
		+ private/<username>/branch in gerrit to do that.

* older gerrit patches
AI:	+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/502/ (Bjoern to review)
AI:	+ bug 53673 - Labels broken with mailmerge (Kendy to find a writer volunteer)

* New Layout funkiness (Caolan)
	+ re-basing underway, merge later today / tomorrow
	+ much prettier dialogs are possible
	+ surprisingly little thrash in vcl/ etc.
	+ full conversions:
		+ remove all the code to load widgets you
		  don't touch afterwards
		+ remove all hand-crafted awful layout
		+ remove the .src and .hrc files
			+ unless you need unrelated strings
	+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/WidgetLayout
	+ lots of beautiful things about to start.

* conference (Thorsten)
	+ in-person ESC meeting 16th October, 17:00 at the venue.

	** 	PLEASE REGSISTER BEFORE OCTOBER 8TH	**

	+ http://conference.libreoffice.org/@@register-for-the-conference
		+ speakers please just enter "No" for have you paid;
		  that is a valid option.
	+ if you have a last-minute paper poke Thorsten for
	  the waiting list ...

* Easy Hacks (Michael)
	+ propose new Topic: TopicFeature
		+ just copying on the wiki page, no objections (Bjoern)
	+ propose new Difficulty: DifficultyHard
		+ are hard easy hacks an oxymoron ? (Bjoern)
		+ adding a category is hard work
		+ things like iWorks filter integration, or more (Michael)
		+ DifficultyAmbitious ? (Stephan)
AI:	+ create a new wiki page, based on GSOC page,
	  present as the next-step on the Easy Hacks page (Michael)
		+ AmbitiousHacks.

* Ensuring on-line help is kept up-to-date (Kendy)
	+ possible to update it automatically
		+ worried about bad translations slipping through ?
		  might take time before we realise something went wrong.
	+ is pootle spamming common ? (Michael)
		+ not yet.
AI:	+ enable automatic help build / sync. on a cron-job (Kendy)

* QA update (Joel)
	+ QA meeting yesterday
		+ lots of vacation going on this time of year
		+ interest from discuss/user list to help triage
		+ 5x new volunteers interested in helping
AI:	+ request to dumb-down the back-trace generation page to
	  make it more accessible (Michael)
		+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport#How_to_get_backtrace_.28on_Linux.29
		+ explain difference valgrind -> gdb
		+ give a simple example / sample output ?
		+ use new --valgrind and --backtrace options
	+ QA meet-up next weekend in Essen @ LinuxHotel report back later;
	  Thorsten, Florian E, Florian R will be there; German-language:
	     http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/DE/QAWochenende2012
	+ getting a doodle poll together for a concerted confirm-fest.

* QA / Hard-Hacks

	Fixed Hard Hacks:
      ID      OS      Component - Summary
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
      48366   All     Calc/xlsx    FILEOPEN for particular .xlsx impossible, "General Error"
		+ opens fine in master, crashes in libreoffice-3-6
		+ Kohei back-ported Muthu's 'fix'
      49819   All     Writer/docx  FILEOPEN error when loading a particular .docx file.
		+ fixed by tolerating mis-matching timestamps, and
		  enabling recovery of corrupted docx files (Michael Meeks)
      48692   All     Writer       TABLES: Writer corrupts large tables
		+ with thanks to Michael Stahl & Noel Grandin
		+ fix is rather involved => 3.7 only.

	Hard Hacks:
      ID      OS      Component - Summary
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
      44278   All     Writer/odt   FILESAVE .docx (MSO2007) as .odt creates duplicated picture
		+ already working in this area (Cedric / Miklos)
      51023   All     Impress      drag-and-drop slide always moves slide to first position,
                                   leading to data corruption and sometimes CRASH
		+ some volunteer (?)

	New Hard Hacks:
      ID      OS      Component - Summary
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
      47283   All     Writer      undo / change-tracking related crash
AI:		+ unclear the connection between undo steps and change-tracking (Michael S)
      46100   All     Calc        crash after deleting a sheet
		+ great work from bfoman generating traces (on Windows!)
AI:		+ could be undo / size related (Kohei)
      37580   All     Impress     Undo / layout bug wrt. slide with formulae
		+ another undo issue, may be related; fix 34585 first.

	Older Hard Hacks:
      ID      OS      Component - Summary
      --------------------------------------------------------------------
      34548   All     Presentation - EDITING: CRASH in action after Undo
AI:		+ prototype hack-around from Michael M awaiting feedback (Thorsten)
		+ the problem looks hideous.
      33302   Mac     Libreoffice - FILEOPEN/EDITING RTL text: parentheses and
                       brackets "(...) [...]" inverted to ")...( ]...["
                       with some fonts
		+ Mac volunteers appreciated.

	+ no more hard-hacks for a couple of weeks please.
		+ going to move to a wiki page flow instead.

* Open 3.7 MAB / regressions [ there should be none ]:
	+ bug 54225 - MAILMERGE e-mail as PDF sends damaged documents
	+ bug 54744 - Hybrid PDF export are corrupted
AI:	+ bug 55290 - LOdev 3.7 won't install [ on Windows ]. Error 1935 (dtardon)
	+ bug 55350 - Letter spacing and ‘expand single word’ do not work now
		+ with a 4 day date-range for the regression [!] ...
AI:		+ Mac specific - suggested patch, re-review (Thorsten)
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54157

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
    + 46 (of 137) older 45/132 44/127 39/119 27/96 26/91 21/80 11/58 12/55 11/48
          34%            34%     35%     33%   28%   29%   26%   19%   22%   23%
    + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
    + 82 open (of 279) older 83/279 80/270 81/269 73/258 73/257 76/256 75/253
          29%                 30%    30%    30%    26%    28%    30%     30%
    + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 177(+10) bugs open of 820(+20) total

    * ~Component   count net *
    + Writer       - 75 (+2)
    + Crashes      - 20 (+3)
    + Presentation - 17 (+0)
    + LibreOffice  - 15 (+2)
    + Database     - 14 (+0)
    + Drawing      - 13 (+0)
    + Borders      - 12 (+1)
    + Migration    - 10 (+1)
    + Spreadsheet  - 11 (+3)
    + Writer / RTF - 2  (-1)
    + Basic        - 2  (-1)

    + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
    + Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489

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