minutes of ESC call ...

Thu Jun 27 07:57:40 PDT 2013

* Present:
	+ Hangout: Kendy, Adam, Joel, Michael M, Thorsten, Bjoern, Kohei, Caolan
	+ Phone:  Lionel, Eike, David, Astron, Norbert, Tibby, Christian

* Completed Action items:
	+ sort out the OTRS queue (Bjoern, Floeff)
	+ write a short Hamburg Hackfest blog entry with photos (Eike)
	+ setup a UX Advice bz component and default CC the ux-advise ML (Joel)
		[ which caused some BSA issues ]
	+ get windows build-bot setup (Moggi)
	+ tweak text on the pre-release page (Cloph)
		+ website banner done too & on the BSA.

* Pending Action items:
	+ get remaining GOSC guys introduced on the QA list (Cedric)
	+ update visible bugzilla versions to hide ~all legacy versions (Joel)
		[ still working on it - need to solve anothre fdo issue first ]
	+ get windows build-bot setup (Kendy/Thorsten)
		[ Thorsten not got access to it just now ]

* gerrit cross-platform build-bot awesomeness (Norbert)
	+ plan is to setup new Windows boxes, and ship them to a kind
	  partner in France
	+ Kendy struggling with SMTP under Windows for tinderboxes
		+ but for gerrit it's all ssh -> setup
	+ we start to need an asset list (Thorsten)
		+ a git repo / wiki page

* Christian working for TDF part time
	+ now working for the infrastructure team
	+ here & there on releng / download page

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
	+ Petr missed & on holiday for another weeks
	+ next monday - branch for 4.1.0 rc2
        + 3.6.7 schedule - deadline:
		+ rc1 is built & pushed to mirrors - announced just now.
		+ July 8th is the deadline for rc2

* QA update (Joel)
	+ QA Contest update
		+ very focused on this.
		+ overall number of bugs dropped by 210 or so.
			+ at least 350 bugs triaged in the last 8 days
			+ goal is still 25% but already at 20%
	+ Need_Advice bugs input appreciated (more of them now)
		+ 10 bugs in that state
		+ http://tinyurl.com/ce6d8km
	+ Encouraging people to put their names in the wiki:
		+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Projects/Bug_Triage_Contest
	+ French / translated BSA is completed
		+ awaiting feedback on testing etc.
		+ bugs -> mailing list -> English -> bugzilla
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
		+162 	-218	(-56)
		many thanks to top ten:
			Jeol Madero:       29
			ign_christian:     26
			bfoman:            14
			James:             13
			Michael Stahl:     11
			Caolán McNamara:    8
			Igor Gnatenko:      7
			Jorendc:            6
			Lionel Elie Mamane: 5
			Ken Biondi:         5
	+ triaging chart looking good:
		+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/reports.cgi?product=LibreOffice&datasets=UNCONFIRMED

* GSOC update (Cedric)
	+ please mentor your students, mid-term evaluations
	  from Mon 29th July until end of that week.

* Easy Hack maintenance (Bjoern)
	+ please look at your easy hacks & maintain / close them
	+ particularly confirming them (shouldn't have NEEDINFO)
	+ on the other hand, we're getting through them:
		+ https://plus.google.com/101094190333184858950/posts/KdvvR2npuBq

* UX input (Astron)
	+ not much new to say
	+ some discussion about toolbars / dialogs ongoing
	+ ux-advise component - not yet used, but we should publicise it:

** Please create UX advise tickets in bugzilla **
	+ vs. the component 'UX-Advice'
	+ this gets to the mailing list & helps tracking

* 4.1 issues
	+ a number of new MABs since filed
	+ concern around 4.1 base regressions (Lionel)
		+ working through them steadily and hopefully

* Version explanation - do we have that (Joel)
	+ do we have a wiki that explains versions etc. ?
	+ we have: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-policy/ (Michael)
	+ and: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibOReleaseLifecycle.png (Bjoern)
	+ and: http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/05/13/announcing-a-new-beta-release/ (Cloph)
	+ boils down to explaining time based releases (Norbert)
	+ time is of the essence, but you don't have to try them all (Bjoern)

* Certification Program (Stephan/Kendy/Bjoern)

* Resolved verified - how does that work (Adam)
	+ QA interested in moving resolved fixed -> closed once
	  there is an official release with that fix in (Bjoern)
		+ gives some bug spam but generates interest
		+ no opposition
	+ could pace it out like the needinfo (Joel)
		+ next week is the close->invalid date for stale needinfos
		+ guess around 30% re-investigated, 70% closed -> invalid

* Open 4.2 MAB
	+ 0/0
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65675

* Open 4.1 MAB
        + 2 (of 42) older 4/39 5/37 7/32 3/26 3/23 4/17 3/16 3/16 3/14 2/13
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1

* Open 4.0 MAB
        + 12 (of 133) older 12/132 16/132 14/130 16/129 16/128 18/129 17/126 18/125
             9%              9%     12%    11%    13%    14%    13%    14%     20%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
        + 57 (of 238) older 63/237 65/236 68/235 67/232 69/231 71/229 72/228 75/226
             24%             27%    28%    29%    30%    31%    32%    33%    33%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
        + 38 (of 119) older 37/114 39/114 41/112 36/105 35/100 36/100 30/90 28/88
                http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
	+ 297(-2) bugs open of 1670(+29) total

	* ~Component   count net *
	        Writer - 99 (-1)
	  Presentation - 29 (+0)
	       Crashes - 26 (+0)
	   Libreoffice - 26 (+2)
	      Database - 24 (+1)
	   Spreadsheet - 24 (+0)
	       Drawing - 20 (-1)
	       Borders - 14 (+0)
	     Migration -  3 (+0)
	         BASIC -  2 (+0)

        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
        + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1
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