minutes of ESC call ...

Thu May 2 07:49:08 PDT 2013

* Present:
	+ Norbert, Ahmed, Eike, Joel, David, Kendy, Lionel, Markus,
	  Michael M, Norbert, Thorsten, Cedric, Ellie, Caolan, Petr

* Completed Action Items
	+ back-track and leave the existing svlibrary macro (Michael)
	+ encourage faenza guys to work on new flat icon project (Astron/Bjoern)

* Pending Action Items
        + look at gradient / clipart issues (Michael)
	+ look into Windows gallery builds (Michael)
	+ double check Lionel's list-box / API change (Eike)
        + need design for copying styles between templates (Astron/UX)
                + either in that dialog or a new dialog
                + also issue with only editing templates that are in the mgr
	+ feedback on stepped-lines dialog (Astron)
        + buy Windows build hardware / hosting (Norbert)
		+ [ ongoing expense management issues ]
	+ add a suggestion to do a single bug triage
	  to the GSOC requirements (Fridrich)
	+ find a good public? test / webdav server for QA (Thorsten)
	+ kill calc / inherited number formatting for 4.1 (Markus)

* QA update (Joel)
	+ working on analysing minor release bugs (Joel)
		+ 50% of issues were not minor release bugs
		  Ubuntu released with 4.0.2.2 - and can't go and update
		  the version every.
		+ everyone reports against the ver. they're using.
	+ some soul searching as to how to do better
	+ issues with extensions
		+ hard for QA to tell if the bugs are ours or not
		+ if the change is a regression, and the reason is not
		  well-known: documented API change / stlport issue etc.
			+ is the bug suitably concrete / filed by an ext'n
			  developer / expert
				=> is our bug, leave it open
			+ otherwise close: not-our-bug
		+ is there any way to reliably contact extension authors (Thorsten)
			+ no ! and 90 bugs vs. ext'ns that are not ours (Joel)
AI:		+ connect Joel with Andreas to get contact details (Thorsten)
	+ nice mockups from Robinson for better version info:
		+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Mockup-of-repro-table.png
	+ Tollef - suggested creating a new bugzilla (on fdo?)
		+ under very early stage consideration
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
		+ several more bugs opened than closed
			+152 -123

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
        + 3.6.7 schedule - deadline: June 24th for rc1
        + 4.0.3 rc2 status
		+ one potential blocker - search always case sensitive
			+ fixed already; but a regression since 4.0.3
			+ thus more serious than a normal issue
		+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63779
		+ do tag now & start builds again
		+ approval from Caolan, Fridrich, Norbert => do 4.0.3rc3
			+ stick with a similar timeline ?, slip 2 days
        + 4.1 - feature-freeze: ~two weeks out: May 20th
		+ Alpha 1 from Monday(ish) that looks good of 4.1
			+ to do build / packaging testing / etc.

* UX input
	+ missing a UX guy.

* New committer added
	+ Khaled Hosney - Harfbuzz hero most welcome.

* GSOC update (Cedric)
	+ need to start rating student proposals *now* we need an answer
	  for how many amazing vs. acceptable proposals we have to bid for
	  a dual slot count on Monday.
	+ last year students could do up-to-twenty applications, this year
	  only five => few fishing applications, more real.
	+ then later we go through a further ranking process - to select
	  the best students
		+ May 27th - they'll know.

* Certification Program (Stephan/Kendy/Bjoern)
	+ next batch of developers for certification
		+ no objections
		+ to be announced later.

* KACST update (Ahmad)
	+ RTL issues are looking good
	+ improving writer default templates idea:
		+ asked design list for a better Writer default template (Cedric)
AI:		+ need to review that discussion - and/or ask for incremental changes (Ahmad)
		+ working this for 4.1
			+ go for it & manage the reaction.
	+ coretext work
AI:		+ ask for status for 4.1 etc. (Tor, Abdulmajid)
	+ training in .cz in June.

* Open 4.1 MAB / regressions
        + 3 (of 16) older 3/14 2/13 2/11 4/10 5/10 5/10 4/8 4/8 2/5 1/2 3/3
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1

* Open 4.0 MAB / regressions
        + 18 (of 125) older 24/122 22/118 19/115 18/112 17/111 19/109 19/106 17/105
             14%             20%    19%    17%    16%    15%    18%    18%    16%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
        + 75 (of 226) older 75/225 75/225 75/223 73/218 74/216 78/217
             33%             33%    33%    34%    33%    34%    36%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
        + 30 (of 90) older 28/88 26/85 24/83 27/83 25/78 29/78 32/79 27/72
        + re-built the query to avoid pre bibisected mess
                http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
        + 299(-15) bugs open of 1495(+16) total

        * ~Component   count net *
        + Writer       -  93 (-11)
        + Spreadsheet  -  32 (-2)
        + LibreOffice  -  29 (+1)
        + Presentation -  29 (-2)
        + Database     -  23 (-1)
        + Crashes      -  20 (-2)
        + Drawing      -  18 (-2)
        + Borders      -  14 (-2)
        + Migration    -   3 (+0)
        + Basic        -   3 (+0)

        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
        + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1

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