ESC meeting minutes: 2020-09-10

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Sep 10 14:55:00 UTC 2020


* Present:
    + Stephan, Michael W, Caolan, Heiko, Olivier, Miklos, Thorsten, Xisco, Cloph, Eike

* Completed Action Items:
    + None

* Pending Action Items:
    + make a decision on what notebookbar variant to promote (Heiko)
      + see tdf#135501 for details
      + no decision yet

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
    + 7.0 status
       + 7.0.2 rc1 will be next week
    + 6.4 status
       + 6.4.7 – end of September (week 39)
    + Remotes
    + Android viewer
    + Online
      + 7.0.1 source release by Andras

* Documentation (Olivier)
    + New Help
       + Finished filling extended tips in UI dialogs (ohallot, cloph)
           + Must include ET in UI sanity checks upon commit.
    + Helpcontents2
       + fixes and updates (ohallot, fitoshido, libreofficiant)
    + Google seasons of Doc
       + Projects started
         + Wiki on Calc functions
         + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Calc_Functions/ACOSH
         + E-learning on Advanced Calc
            + Elaborating lesson plans
    + Guides
        + Progressing on all guides

* UX Update (Heiko)
    + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
        248(248) (topicUI) bugs open, 311(311) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
    + Updates:
        BZ changes   1 week     1 month    3 months    12 months
             added      18(-12)    81(-8)     103(-8)     217(-4)
         commented     114(10)    403(-58)   1036(-46)   3803(-18)
           removed       0(-1)      1(0)        8(-2)      54(0)
          resolved      11(6)      26(3)       91(-10)    387(1)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Telesto made 274 changes in 1 month, and 602 changes in 1 year
          Heiko Tietze made 106 changes in 1 month, and 2062 changes in 1 year
          Kainz, Andreas made 88 changes in 1 month, and 503 changes in 1 year
          Dieter Praas made 54 changes in 1 month, and 528 changes in 1 year
          Ilmari Lauhakangas made 48 changes in 1 month, and 220 changes in 1 y
          Foote, V Stuart made 48 changes in 1 month, and 602 changes in 1 year
          Thomas Lendo made 36 changes in 1 month, and 157 changes in 1 year
          Roman Kuznetsov made 34 changes in 1 month, and 259 changes in 1 year
          BogdanB made 28 changes in 1 month, and 105 changes in 1 year
          Kaganski, Mike made 23 changes in 1 month, and 115 changes in 1 year

    * 18 new ticket since Sep/03

    * Substitute fonts Linux Libertine and Linux Biolinum with Libertinus
      + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135788
      + Liberatine fonts are Graphite-enabled, and not sure if that’s true for the Libertinus font as well (Cloph)

    * Add Luciole font to support accessibility
      + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136646
      + wait for https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91886 ?

         command from showing a dialog into a dropdown
       + so Windows users could select what fonts to install
         + prefer to still install Liberation fonts by default (Cloph)
       + needs development work to support optional font installation (Cloph)
         => out of question for 7.0
       + font size? (Miklos)
         + bothered by the size of the font list, rather (Heiko)
       => idea: make it easy to install these fonts, in an opt-in way (all)

    * .uno:DistributeSelection not opening a dialog anymore
       + request https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97918
       + patch https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/102272 turning the old
       + old uno command used to open a dialog, reusing this, but not opening a dialog anymore
       + trade-off: full compatibility vs never removing old commands (Miklos)
         + would like to ignore compatibility here (Heiko)

* Crash testing (Caolan)
    + 4(-4) import failure, 3(-11) export failures
      + going in the right direction
    + 2 coverity issues
    + 10 ossfuzz issues (all timeouts)

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.5.2
        + (-70) 1744 1814 2208 2552 2315 1761 1162 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.6.2
        + (+179) 1053 874 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.0.3
        + (-1405) 5084 6489 3840 788 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.1.2
        + (+1986) 1986 0

   + not really informative at the moment due to missing symbols
   + looking sane in general
   + still looking for reproducer steps for some Skia problems
     + waiting for new results from the next point release

* GSoC 2020 (Thorsten/Ilmari)
    + Projects announced: https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/05/05/9769/
    + June 1, 2020 - August 24, 2020: Students work on their projects
    + 6 projects accepted
    + Students will have a panel: (Thorsten)
      + mentors: please poke your students to have a 10-15 mins presentation of their work

* Mentoring/easyhack update
          committer...   1 week      1 month     3 months     12 months
                  open      70(-32)     151(-7)     207(-6)       216(-6)
               reviews     512(-236)   2022(88)    4946(-60)    19828(-108)
                merged     360(-65)    1626(-17)   5422(-171)   19925(120)
             abandoned      13(1)        72(7)      235(-7)      1041(5)
           own commits     266(-73)    1209(-23)   3756(-1)     16039(21)
        review commits      94(-61)     458(6)     1158(35)      4693(27)
        contributor...   1 week       1 month     3 months      12 months
                  open       31(-27)      59(-39)      79(-40)       81(-40)
               reviews     1170(-250)   4502(-90)   13887(-390)   45507(269)
                merged       66(38)      138(32)      434(39)      1548(-68)
             abandoned       12(-8)       45(4)       133(3)        554(11)
           own commits       65(39)      156(7)       543(44)      1583(54)
        review commits        0(0)         0(0)         0(0)          0(0)
    + easyHack statistics:
       needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 2(2)   cleanup_comments 239(239)
       total 288(288)   assigned 13(13)   open 254(254)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Johnny_M made 30 patches in 1 month, and 292 patches in 1 year
          Dániel Arató made 18 patches in 1 month, and 18 patches in 1 year
          Aditya Sahu made 17 patches in 1 month, and 34 patches in 1 year
          George Bateman made 13 patches in 1 month, and 13 patches in 1 year
          Yusuf Keten made 10 patches in 1 month, and 34 patches in 1 year
          Attila Bakos made 6 patches in 1 month, and 29 patches in 1 year
          Weblate made 5 patches in 1 month, and 66 patches in 1 year
          Nagy Tibor made 4 patches in 1 month, and 16 patches in 1 year
          Alain Romedenne made 3 patches in 1 month, and 145 patches in 1 year
          Attila Szűcs made 3 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
    + top 10 reviewers:
          Nabet, Julien made 320 review comments in 1 month, and 1378 in 1 year
          McNamara, Caolán made 150 review comments in 1 month, and 800 in 1 year
          Behrens, Thorsten made 136 review comments in 1 month, and 1370 in 1 year
          Timar, Andras made 134 review comments in 1 month, and 1461 in 1 year
          Németh, László made 116 review comments in 1 month, and 634 in 1 year
          Grandin, Noel made 110 review comments in 1 month, and 978 in 1 year
          Michael Stahl made 90 review comments in 1 month, and 1172 in 1 year
          Holešovský, Jan made 82 review comments in 1 month, and 641 in 1 year
          Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 78 review comments in 1 month, and 1278 in 1 year
          Kaganski, Mike made 72 review comments in 1 month, and 826 in 1 year
    + Patches automatically abandoned:
        tdf#125969 - Enable loading existed background image into Bitmap list ( xu douxi )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/92330
        tdf#130069 Improved "Scope" in Impress/Draw Bullets&Numbering dialog ( Advait Ranade )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/92660
        flesh out scrolling for TabPage ( Bernhard Widl )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/97741
        tdf#33714 add option to disable "only active sheet saved" box ( Martin van Zijl )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/98174
        tdf#125969 - Enable loading existed background image into Bitmap list ( xu douxi )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/98228
    + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
          Deborah Barkley-Yeung
          George Bateman
          Hillwood Yang (openSUSE)
          Luke Dixon

* Commit Access
  + None

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten)
    + sleep 4 weeks
    + seeking for a new person as a replacement for Bjoern, who is currently
      inactive

* Jenkins / CI update (Christian)
    from:Thu Sep  3 13:58:43 2020
    master linux rel  jobs:  47 ok:  47 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master linux dbg  jobs:  48 ok:  41 ko:   7 fail ratio: 14.58 % break:   2 broken duration: 7.57%
    master mac rel    jobs: 111 ok: 110 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master mac dbg    jobs: 115 ok: 115 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master win rel    jobs:  89 ok:  89 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master win dbg    jobs:  96 ok:  96 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master win64 dbg  jobs:  91 ok:  91 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master gerrit lin jobs: 498 ok: 427 ko:  46 fail ratio:  9.24% time for ok: mean:  25 median:  24
    master gerrit plg jobs: 430 ok: 339 ko:  61 fail ratio: 14.19% time for ok: mean:  35 median:  31
    master gerrit win jobs: 545 ok: 353 ko: 156 fail ratio: 28.62% time for ok: mean:  55 median:  54
    master gerrit mac jobs: 507 ok: 435 ko:  39 fail ratio:  7.69% time for ok: mean:  30 median:  25
    master gerrit all jobs: 463 ok: 276 ko: 144 fail ratio: 31.10% time for ok: mean:  99 median:  78
   + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_200910.html
   + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days:
      3 CppunitTest_sc_subsequent_export_test		gerrit_windows
      3 CppunitTest_sw_apitests		gerrit_windows
      4 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter		gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      4 CppunitTest_sw_ww8export3		gerrit_windows
      4 UITest_options		gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      6 CppunitTest_xmlsecurity_signing		gerrit_windows
     10 CppunitTest_sw_odfexport		gerrit_windows
     12 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter		gerrit_windows

    + looks acceptable (Cloph)
    + still issues with core vs lode repo checkout
      + picks up lode, as the parent repo
      + have a workaround

* Android as part of CI (Thorsten)
    + Having some options on the table, plus approx effort & cost on infra side for either?
    + current bot is slow enough to not be part of CI (Cloph)
    + could use some cloud builders, though
      + normally 2 builders are enough, but not when the queue is long
    + as a start: build for Android, but don’t block with a negative vote (Cloph)
      + could learn the load pattern that way
      + sounds like a good start, if feedback is still provided in ~1h (Thorsten)
AI: set up 1 builder and see the build turn-around time (Cloph)

* Should the ESC have a vision, similar to the design team? (Heiko)
  + the design team talked about a vision, for the next 2 years
  + it comes up frequently: there is no “vision” (blog post complaining)
  + wonder: can we do something more here?
    + e.g. Skia: we regularly talk about it
      + because our customers paid for this (Miklos)
    + be more transparent?
  + what’s the purpose? (Thorsten)
    + for the design team, it makes sense to have a shared vision
    + for the ESC, the representatives just talk to each other
      + purpose: not setting a vision
      + rather building consensus, weekly update, so everyone knows what others do
      + for the commercial ecosystem, we do what customers pay for, mostly (Thorsten, Miklos)
      + of course, talking about already in-progress work here (Thorsten)
    + can imagine: some project done by multiple people, a dev mentor may coordinate that
    + otherwise, it makes little sense
    + unclear what content to write there
    + TDF/LO is a project, community of people, not a product (Thorsten)
      + do it in a meaningful way – coordinating here in this call e.g.
    + firmly believe that a dev mentor can help here
    + if companies do something larger, please communicate about it e.g. here (Heiko)
      + could talk about “what’s cooking” (Thorsten)


* Merging features/windows-cross-build (Jan-Marek)
  + see https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2020-September/085869.html
  + flagging: this is to be merged (Thorsten)
    + seeing no objections so far

* l10n (Sophie)
  + working is ongoing

* Graphics architecture (Thorsten)
  * https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/ESC_graphics_architecture
  * skia / vulkan: try it on master (Lubos)
    + metabug: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129062
      + 16 (-3) open bugs, 118 total (+1)

* LibreOffice Conference will be Online (Sophie)
  + some people wondered if it is possible to pre-record the talk?
    - possible, but not a requirement
  + expect to have a schedule by next week!

* QA update (Xisco)
    + Please help flesh out the monthly reports:
          https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/2qbepFYXXan4ief
          Most work is done by Xisco and Ilmari here, thanks to them!

    + UNCONFIRMED: 1238 (-30)
        + enhancements: 125  (-11)
        + needsUXEval: 61 (-12)
        + haveBackTrace: 1 (-1)
        + needsDevAdvice: 16 (+2)
        + documentation:  12 (-3)
        + android:  5 (+0)
        + iOS:  0 (+0)
        + Online:  21 (+2)



    + Most pressing bugs:
     New:
       + CRASH: Chart: Changing properties in different objects
           + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133630
           + Muhammet ?

     Old:
       + macOS: Can't Save As after installing language pack on Catalina
           + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132025
           + more info here: “Subject: Budget 2020 proposals and macOS
Catalina
             support / onboarding” on the dev list (Heiko)

        + Text runs of RTL scripts (e.g. Arabic, Hebrew, Persian) from
imported
          PDF are reversed, PDFIProcessor::mirrorString not behaving
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104597
            + Thorsten looking at it
            + old problem, but many duplicates


    + New high severity bugs of the week:
        + Calc only saves background color up to column BL for additional row of the same background color with empty row in between
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133327
            + Noel?

        + after saving a docx file with encryption, the encryption stays active even when not selected any more
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133771
            + Vasily?

        + LO 6.4.6.1 and 7.0.1 fail with error 1045 when accessing  MySQL database using native connector
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135202
            + needs bisecting. Regression from 6.4.5.2 to 6.4.6.1. ubuntu only ?

        + Applying a spell checker suggestion adds the result also to the autocorrect replacement list (since 7.0)
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136471
            + Tamas Zolnai already fixed

* QA stats
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
      +199  +63 (-190) overall)
      many thanks to the top bug squashers:
       Timur                   18
       NISZ LibreOffice Team   14
       Buovjaga                11
       Heiko Tietze            10
       Telesto                 9
       Caolán McNamara         8
       Luboš Luňák             8
       Xisco Faulí             7
       Julien Nabet            6
       Olivier Hallot          6

    + top 10 bugs reporters:
       Telesto                 37
       NISZ LibreOffice Team   9
       Xisco Faulí             5
       Buovjaga                4
       Christian Lehmann       3
       R. Green                3
       Timur                   3
       Frederic Parrenin       2
       Ivan                    2
       Kevin Suo               2

    + top 10 bugs fixers:
       McNamara, Caolán        7
       Olivier Hallot          6
       Luboš Luňák             4
       Attila Bakos            3
       Dániel Arató            3
       Justin Luth             3
       Lillqvist, Tor          3
       Nagy Tibor              3
       Németh, László          3
       Xisco Fauli             3

    + top 10 bugs confirmers:
       Ilmari Lauhakangas      26
       Xisco Fauli             25
       *UNKNOWN*               17
       Heiko Tietze            16
       BogdanB                 13
       Nabet, Julien           10
       Dieter Praas            7
       Timur                   7
       Roman Kuznetsov         5
       Foote, V Stuart         4


* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
   + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
     6.0 : 1/52 -     1 %  (+0)
     5.4 : 0/41 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.3 : 0/54 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.2 : 0/43 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.1 : 1/36 -     2 %  (+0)
     5.0 : 0/64 -     0 %  (+0)
     4.4 : 0/76 -     0 %  (+0)
     4.3 : 2/73 -     2 %  (+0)
     4.2 : 1/133 -    0 %  (+0)
     4.1 : 3/85 -     3 %  (+0)
     4.0 : 4/83 -     4 %  (+0)
     old : 6/247 -    2 %  (+0)


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
   + more accurate - down to a single commit.
   + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
   + 862/4687 848/4656 842/4631 841/4613 839/4593 835/4575 839/4559

     done by:
        Xisco Fauli           11
        Raal                   5
        Timur                  4
        Budea, Áron            3
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
        Telesto                1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
   + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
   + 1046/5583 1034/5552 1025/5522 1024/5501 1026/5482 1023/5464 1027/5448

     done by:
        Xisco Fauli           11
        Raal                   5
        Timur                  4
        Budea, Áron            3
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
        smithjames1857         1
        Telesto                1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
   + 1322(+11) bugs open of 10230(+35) total 11(-1) high prio.

     done by:
        Telesto               16
        Xisco Fauli           10
        Budea, Áron            1
        Alex Thurgood          1
        b. s.                  1
        oesterblog-admin       1
        Raal                   1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
     Writer        - 5(-1)
     Calc          - 3(+0)
     Impress       - 2(+0)
     LibreOffice   - 1(+0)

   by OS:
     All           - 8(-1)
     Linux         - 1(+0)
     Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
     Windows       - 2(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
     Writer: other            - 405(+11)
     Calc                     - 233(+2)
     Impress                  - 145(+0)
     LibreOffice              - 58(-1)
     Writer: docx filter      - 55(-2)
     Crashes                  - 53(+2)
     Draw                     - 50(+0)
     UI                       - 43(+0)
     Borders                  - 42(+0)
     Writer: perf             - 42(-2)
     Base                     - 33(+1)
     Writer: other filter     - 29(+0)
     Writer: doc filter       - 27(+0)
     graphics stack           - 24(+0)
     Printing and PDF export  - 23(+0)
     RTL                      - 23(+0)
     Chart                    - 21(+2)
     filters and storage      - 20(+0)
     BASIC                    - 14(-1)
     framework                - 2(+0)
     Installation             - 1(+0)
     sdk                      - 1(+0)


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