[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2023-06-01

Eyal Rozenberg eyalroz1 at gmx.com
Fri Jun 2 11:48:56 UTC 2023


About the tender project proposals:

The minutes refer to this list:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2022

but - there is also this list:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2023

I know that May 28th has passed, but these minutes were only sent 
yesterday, so... which list is it?

Also, if I want to suggest a project - should I create a Budget2024 wiki 
page? Should I edit the Budget2023 page? (In which case - who will 
notice newer vs older entries?) Should I talk about it in an ESC session 
first?

Eyal


On 01/06/2023 17:57, Miklos Vajna wrote:
> * ESC tender project proposal process (Thorsten & Florian)
>    + reportedly Ilmari was sharing some list of projects to review, see 
> below
>    + Review of the items selected by ESC from 
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2022 (Ilmari)
>    + if anybody has further comments on the above list, deadline to 
> provide your input is 28th of May (Thorsten)
>    + couple of new proposals, but no cost estimates for them (Ilmari)
>      + 
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=Development%2FBudget2023&type=revision&diff=672211&oldid=612682
>      + worth estimating one or two of them?
>    + process draft, full text:
>      https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/YprpsFP45z7a7p3
>    + next: effort estimates (Thorsten)
>      + default would be to just disqualify the items without estimates
>      + idea: only do estimates for the ideas which would be tendered
>      + if can't find anybody who won't bid to estimate -> also disqualify
>      + ideally somebody from TDF staff should own this process (Thorsten)
>    + has the info from Thorsten from yesterday (Florian)
>      + the board will do the formal decision, based on ESC suggestion
>      + need to declare who will bid
>      + new proposals will need person day estimates from non-bidders
>      + probably Ilmari / Khaled can own the process
>      + need to publish the ranking: in read-only mode
>      + will work with Italo/Mike on the transparency section, before the 
> first tender is published
>    + next steps (Thorsten)
>      + for old projects: need to re-do effort estimates by TDF staff
>      + good to publish the list of projects that are in the budget 
> (Thorsten)
>      + would like the community to participate (Heiko)
>        + why not all TDF members do the ranking?
>        + assumption behind that was that some projects are extremely 
> technical (Thorsten)
>        + internal refactoring: people outside ESC would not consider 
> such non-user-visible changes
>        + but e.g. 10% could be decided by TDF members
>        + idea was to let the engineering leadership to decide
>        + next year the process can be a bit different (Florian)
>          + good to improve things next year
>      + ranking is decided by the consensus of the non-conflicted members 
> (Thorsten)
>        + but the ranking can be done by all ESC members
>      + Items currently in the budget draft (Florian)
>        + Text layout Cleanup & further improve ODF conformance
>        + Rolling Release: Finish MAR-based autoupdater for Windows
>        + C++ accessibility tests
>        + Support for Editing and Creation of SmartArt
>        + Convert Impress slideshow to drawinglayer primitives
>        + Writer tables: support cell margins (next to cell padding)
>        + Bitmaps in vcl: Merge RGB and A layer into one
>        + Stabilize cross-page table layouting
>        + Font subsetter for font embedding
>        + Bitmaps in vcl: Use a native format/depth
>        + ODT export nondeterminism
>        + Remove/Replace usages of XOR-Paint
>        + Decouple master slide and layouts
>        + Look-ahead styleref field for Writer
>        + Normalized spell checking
>        + Missing ODF Features: Concentric gradient fill of custom-shapes
>        + Bridge the gap between drawinglayer and VCL
>        + XLSX Aggressive Competitors tracker: gridlines for 3d line charts
>      + new ideas (Thorsten)
>        + better text justification
>        + AI-based text-to-speech, OCR, etc
>      + next step (Florian)
>        + by next week: have effort estimates checked by TDF staff (Xisco)
>        + propose a separate call, for those who want to rank (Thorsten)
>          + the week after
>          + sorry for the double-estimate, can't avoid that
>        + sounds like a good plan (Florian, Xisco)
> 
> * Crash Testing (Caolan)
>      + 28(+0) import failure, 2(+0) export failures
>        - Mike K. has one more fixed since
>      + 0 coverity issues
>      + 4 ossfuzz issues
>        - no crashes
>      + CVE-2023-2255 and CVE-2023-0950 published
> 
> * Crash Reporting (Xisco)
>     + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.4.6.2
>           + (-146) 653 799 666 871 679 676 683 513 392 371 241 0
>     + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.4.7.2
>           + (-1) 250 251 118 0
>     + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.5.2.2
>           + (-112) 628 740 674 1041 1070 1162 950 527 0
>     + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.5.3.2
>           + (+145) 1174 1029 702 453 0
> 
> * Mentoring (Hossein)
>    + Two new EasyHacks
>      + Split huge complex functions into multiple functions with less 
> complexity
>        https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155628
>        + no concerns, if the refactor is really mechanical and not 
> mixing with functional changes (Miklos)
>        + not sure if the metric is useful (Stephan)
>          + think of a simple long if list
>          + if that complex, probably best not to touch it anyway
>        + input in the bug is appreciated (Hossein)
>      + Deduplicate copy/paste code (reboot with a new tool)
>        https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155630
> 
>            committer...   1 week     1 month     3 months     12 months
>                    open      76(7)      125(10)     172(-2)       180(-4)
>                 reviews     302(8)     1150(-98)   3058(-56)    10688(-102)
>                  merged     216(-54)   1045(-44)   3225(-126)   12296(-267)
>               abandoned       7(-4)      44(-3)     170(-9)       636(-27)
>             own commits     154(-25)    811(-48)   2526(-101)   10342(-71)
>          review commits      44(-14)    279(-14)    837(-61)     3028(2)
>          contributor...   1 week     1 month      3 months     12 months
>                    open      18(2)      208(-1)      232(5)        234(0)
>                 reviews     626(-74)   2958(-166)   8350(-288)   
> 31818(-164)
>                  merged      14(0)      118(-42)     536(-32)     2910(170)
>               abandoned       1(-3)      19(-5)       80(-10)      512(-9)
>             own commits      11(-5)      83(-6)      311(-43)     1022(6)
>          review commits       0(0)        0(0)         0(0)          0(0)
>      + easyHack statistics:
>         needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 326(326)
>         total 394(394)   assigned 28(28)   open 340(340)
>      + top 10 contributors:
>            Sophia Schroeder made 10 patches in 1 month, and 46 patches 
> in 1 year
>            Dr. David Alan Gilbert made 8 patches in 1 month, and 11 
> patches in 1 year
>            Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 7 patches in 1 month, and 67 
> patches in 1 year
>            Vojtěch Doležal made 5 patches in 1 month, and 14 patches in 
> 1 year
>            Baole Fang made 4 patches in 1 month, and 17 patches in 1 year
>            Svante Schubert made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 
> year
>            Colomban Wendling made 3 patches in 1 month, and 22 patches 
> in 1 year
>            Czeber László made 3 patches in 1 month, and 10 patches in 1 
> year
>            Srebotnjak, Martin made 2 patches in 1 month, and 24 patches 
> in 1 year
>            Marco Pinto made 2 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
>      + top 10 reviewers:
>            Nabet, Julien made 110 review comments in 1 month, and 908 in 
> 1 year
>            Thorsten Behrens made 102 review comments in 1 month, and 520 
> in 1 year
>            Michael Stahl made 96 review comments in 1 month, and 1076 in 
> 1 year
>            Vajna, Miklos made 66 review comments in 1 month, and 740 in 
> 1 year
>            Ilmari Lauhakangas made 66 review comments in 1 month, and 
> 328 in 1 year
>            Timar, Andras made 58 review comments in 1 month, and 364 in 
> 1 year
>            Hossein made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 280 in 1 year
>            Xisco Fauli made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 824 in 1 
> year
>            Rathke, Eike made 48 review comments in 1 month, and 292 in 1 
> year
>            Kłos, Szymon made 46 review comments in 1 month, and 212 in 1 
> year
> 
> * GSoC (Ilmari)
>    + Missing Ilmari
>    + contributors can start already
>    + coding started on 29th May (Thorsten)
>      + expect weekly reports
> 
> * Commit Access
>    + None
> 
> * Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/Thorsten/László)
>    + resting since: 10 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)
> 
> * Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
> gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 138 ok: 121 ko:   9 fail ratio: 6.52% 
> mean_ok:  13 ( 16) median_ok:   8 ( 10)
> gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 138 ok: 127 ko:   5 fail ratio: 3.62% 
> mean_ok:  12 ( 15) median_ok:   8 ( 10)
> gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 137 ok: 124 ko:   7 fail ratio: 5.11% 
> mean_ok:  11 ( 14) median_ok:   7 ( 10)
> gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 137 ok: 127 ko:   4 fail ratio: 2.92% 
> mean_ok:  12 ( 15) median_ok:   8 ( 12)
> gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 317 ok: 205 ko:  91 fail ratio: 28.71% 
> mean_ok:  49 ( 51) median_ok:  47 ( 48)
> gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 275 ok: 230 ko:  31 fail ratio: 11.27% 
> mean_ok:  23 ( 24) median_ok:  21 ( 21)
> gerrit_mac                 jobs: 293 ok: 208 ko:  63 fail ratio: 21.50% 
> mean_ok:  48 ( 54) median_ok:  43 ( 47)
> gerrit_windows             jobs: 285 ok: 204 ko:  47 fail ratio: 16.49% 
> mean_ok:  67 ( 78) median_ok:  58 ( 65)
> gerrit_master              jobs: 307 ok: 174 ko:  99 fail ratio: 32.25% 
> mean_ok:  83 ( 83) median_ok:  71 ( 71)
>     + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_230601.html
>     + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
>        3 UITest_cui_dialogs                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
>        4 CppunitTest_framework_dispatch                gerrit_windows
>        5 Killed by the kill-wrapper                
> gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
>        5 CppunitTest_sc_uicalc                gerrit_mac
>       20 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_mac
>       + this week was silent: few builds, few failures (Cloph)
>       + sw_uiwriter4 is not a problem anymore
>       + larger number of builds killed by the kill-wrapper
> 
> * What’s cooking (Miklos)
>    + tdf#155118 multi-page floating tables in Writer (Miklos)
>    + multi-color gradients (Armin)
>      + bugfixing mode
>      + the feature is there, should be working; corner-cases need still 
> addressing
> 
> * LibreOffice conference Bucharest 2023 (Gabriel)
>    + call for papers: 
> https://events.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice-conference-2023/cfp
>      + Deadline is at the end of June
> 
> * QA update (Xisco)
>      + UNCONFIRMED: 1093 (-11)
>          + enhancements: 267  (-11)
>          + needsUXEval: 7 (-1)
>          + haveBackTrace: 9 (+0)
>          + needsDevAdvice: 33 (+0)
>          + documentation:  1 (-1)
>          + android:  3 (+0)
>          + iOS:  0 (+0)
>          + Online:  12 (+0)
> 
>      + Most pressing bugs:
>       New:
> 
>      None
> 
> 
>      + New high severity bugs of the week:
>          + 2023-05-29_Define a custom color does not work any longer
>              + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155543
>              + Already fixed, thanks Stephan
> 
> * QA stats (Stéphane)
>      + 
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
>        +98  +4 (-162) overall)
>        many thanks to the top bug squashers:
>         Justin L                32
>         BogdanB                 21
>         QA Administrators       17
>         Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 15
>         خالد حسني               9
>         Heiko Tietze            8
>         Buovjaga                7
>         Mike Kaganski           6
>         Caolán McNamara         5
>         Julien Nabet            5
> 
>      + top 10 bugs reporters:
>         Alexander Kurakin       6
>         Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 3
>         Regina Henschel         3
>         Samuel Mehrbrodt (allotropia) 3
>         Telesto                 3
>         خالد حسني               3
>         BogdanB                 2
>         Caolán McNamara         2
>         Rafael Lima             2
>         Robert Großkopf         2
> 
>      + top 10 bugs fixers:
>         Justin Luth             16
>         خالد حسني               7
>         Caolán McNamara         4
>         Heiko Tietze            3
>         Michael Stahl           3
>         Nabet, Julien           3
>         Grandin, Noel           2
>         Kaganski, Mike          2
>         Olivier Hallot          2
>         Seth Chaiklin           2
> 
>      + top 10 bugs confirmers:
>         Stéphane Guillou        33
>         m.a.riosv               13
>         Heiko Tietze            7
>         خالد حسني               6
>         Bogdan B                5
>         Nabet, Julien           5
>         Raal                    4
>         Roman Kuznetsov         3
>         Telesto                 3
>         Dieter                  2
> 
> * Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
>     + more accurate - down to a single commit.
>     + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
>     +
> 
>       done by:
>          Stéphane Guillou       7
>          Raal                   4
>          csyu.279               2
>          Justin Luth            1
>          Kelemen, Gabor         1
>          Xisco Fauli            1
> 
> * Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
>     + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
>     +
> 
>       done by:
>          Stéphane Guillou       6
>          Raal                   4
>          csyu.279               2
>          Justin Luth            1
>          Kelemen, Gabor         1
>          Xisco Fauli            1
> 
> * all bugs tagged with 'regression'
>     + 1210(-15) bugs open of 12589(+9) total 15(+1) high prio.
> 
>       done by:
>          Raal                   3
>          Stéphane Guillou       3
>          m.a.riosv              1
>          Robert Großkopf        1
>          Xisco Fauli            1
> 
> * ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
>     + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
>       Writer        - 8(+0)
>       Calc          - 3(+0)
>       Base          - 1(+1)
>       Draw          - 1(+0)
>       Impress       - 1(+0)
>       LibreOffice   - 1(+0)
> 
>     by OS:
>       All           - 10(+0)
>       Linux         - 3(+1)
>       Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
>       Windows       - 2(+0)
> 
> * ~Component   count net * all regressions
>     + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
>       Writer: other            - 426(-6)
>       Calc                     - 218(-3)
>       Impress                  - 133(+0)
>       LibreOffice              - 50(+0)
>       Crashes                  - 48(-4)
>       Draw                     - 48(+0)
>       Writer: docx filter      - 45(-2)
>       Base                     - 42(+2)
>       UI                       - 34(+0)
>       Writer: perf             - 33(+0)
>       Borders                  - 31(-1)
>       Writer: other filter     - 30(+0)
>       Chart                    - 25(-1)
>       Printing and PDF export  - 25(-1)
>       RTL                      - 23(+0)
>       filters and storage      - 19(+1)
>       BASIC                    - 18(-1)
>       Writer: doc filter       - 14(-3)
>       graphics stack           - 13(+0)
>       Formula Editor           - 3(+0)
>       Extensions               - 2(+0)
>       sdk                      - 2(+0)
>       Linguistic               - 1(+0)
>       framework                - 1(+0)


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