ESC meeting minutes: 2023-10-26

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Oct 26 14:34:31 UTC 2023


* Present:
     + Caolan, Cloph, Heiko, Hossein, Ilmari, Xisco, Michael W, Stephan, Miklos, Eike, Michael S

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:
     + Set up a daily tinderbox for the python-based windows installer (Cloph)
       [ hope to get to it in a week ]

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
     + 7.6 status: 7.6.3 rc1 in 1 week
     + 7.5 status: 7.5.8 rc2 this week:
         + 3 patches waiting for review
         + hope to tag later today
           https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/q/branch:libreoffice-7-5-8+status:open
     + 24.2: end of Nov, in week 47, first alpha
       + feature freeze in early Dec
       + if you have late features, speak up now!
         + a way to show "no more search results", improve this (Heiko)

     + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/156943

       + see https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/24.2 for details
       + might be some small shifts of 1-2 weeks in either direction

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + New Help
        + Improvements for accessibility (Ilmari)
     + Helpcontents2
        + Updates in nomenclature (ohallot, S. Chaiklin)
        + Review/updates on UI commands (ohallot)
        + Q: "Table Heading" or "Table Header"
           https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157920
           + Calc goes with "Header", Writer uses "Heading"
           + the bug has the input from Michael S already, agreeing with that (Miklos)
     + Guides
        + Progress in GS 7.6 (Rob Thornton)
        + Progress in Calc guides 7.6 (Steve Fanning)

     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         274(274) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     5(1)     25(5)      61(-5)     292(0)
          commented     9(0)     47(4)     182(-30)   1080(0)
           resolved     0(-2)     5(0)      23(-6)     156(-1)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Olivier Hallot made 16 changes in 1 month, and 436 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 15 changes in 1 month, and 128 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 11 changes in 1 month, and 80 changes in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 11 changes in 1 month, and 352 changes in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 4 changes in 1 month, and 111 changes in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 4 changes in 1 month, and 14 changes in 1 year
           aswath t made 2 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year
           Rathke, Eike made 2 changes in 1 month, and 10 changes in 1 year
           Jérôme made 2 changes in 1 month, and 2 changes in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 1 changes in 1 month, and 22 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         254(254) (topicUI) bugs open, 57(57) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
              added      7(6)     17(0)     19(0)       40(-2)
          commented     69(28)   183(42)   428(28)    2212(43)
            removed      0(-1)     2(0)      3(0)       19(-1)
           resolved      9(-2)    27(-3)    84(-2)     328(4)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 112 changes in 1 month, and 1385 changes in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 95 changes in 1 month, and 552 changes in 1 year
           Justin Luth made 25 changes in 1 month, and 120 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 23 changes in 1 month, and 250 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 21 changes in 1 month, and 232 changes in 1 year
           Bogdan B made 17 changes in 1 month, and 116 changes in 1 year
           Amin Irgaliev made 17 changes in 1 month, and 17 changes in 1 year
           Balazs Varga made 16 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year
           Kelemen, Gabor made 16 changes in 1 month, and 22 changes in 1 year
           m.a.riosv made 15 changes in 1 month, and 84 changes in 1 year
     + [Bug 156988] Find cannot find superscripted or subscripted text
     + [Bug 154028] Difficult to change the language of everything in the document
     + [Bug 157908] Change "Evaluate" to "Include" in "Create Index or Table
            of Contents" section of TOC, Index, Bibliography Type tab
     + [Bug 157878] AUTOFILTER : Doesn't work with 2 words like "CP" and "Mi-CP"
            or "MiCP"
  -> + [Bug 157657] Make data validity case sensitive
       + the proposal is to change behavior here (Heiko)
         + would get us closer to the Excel way
     + [Bug 157882] The arrowhead control in the sidebar line section is difficult
            to notice
     + [Bug 157880] Can't choose an icon when creating an OLE object
     + [Bug 157866] Toolbar dis/appearance must neither shift nor scale the
            slide display
  -> + [Bug 39015] EDITING: drag-and-drop selection of (part) of hyperlink drags
            the hyperlink itself (comment 14)
       + propose to change: allow selection of part of a hyperlink
     + [Bug 157864] Introduce presentation and/or master color scheme support
     + [Bug 153919] Shift+resize aspect ratio not maintained for images
  -> + [Bug 157828] Support selection of multiple comments
       + editeng now has some better style support since Maxim added that (Heiko)
       + would be nice to clear formatting for all comments -> needs a way to be able to select all comments
       + select all text -> implicitly "selects" all comments? (Miklos)
         + ideal to not touch the body text formatting (Heiko)

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 9(+3) import failure, 0(+0) export failures
       + one failure from using content controls for 1para block SDT from DOCX, Jaume is on it
     + 1 coverity issues
     + 3 ossfuzz issues, +2 crashes
       - fodt2pdf has found another crasher

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
     + 7.5.6.2    2674(+346) 2328
     + 7.5.7.1    1955(+765) 1190
     + 7.6.0.3    13851(+1051) 12800
     + 7.6.1.2    6778(+638) 6140
     + 7.6.2.1    7283(+2935) 4348


     - Regression in LibreOffice 7.6.2

     - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/writerfilter::dmapper::TableManager::endLevel()

     Introduced by 2d43c34333076fad092f0cdc0f60f81580acdbee ? Miklos ?


* Mentoring (Hossein)
           committer...   1 week     1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open     104(52)     141(58)     172(30)      198(-1)
                reviews     408(76)    1154(168)   3290(-16)   11692(42)
                 merged     294(50)    1048(139)   2981(32)    12812(61)
              abandoned      13(-11)     48(6)      161(5)       647(-4)
            own commits     232(55)     766(128)   2082(17)     9707(7)
         review commits      48(-16)    221(15)     605(-21)    3001(-36)
         contributor...   1 week     1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      69(28)      98(28)     122(19)      139(1)
                reviews     922(218)   2644(420)   7038(140)   30580(38)
                 merged      20(4)       58(10)     181(3)      2018(-15)
              abandoned       2(-5)      26(-11)    212(1)       613(-6)
            own commits      19(-2)      75(1)      209(3)      1100(2)
         review commits       0(0)        0(0)        0(0)         0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 318(318)
        total 398(398)   assigned 21(21)   open 352(352)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Bogdan B made 5 patches in 1 month, and 100 patches in 1 year
           Sahil Gautam made 5 patches in 1 month, and 14 patches in 1 year
           Omkar Acharekar  made 4 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 4 patches in 1 month, and 37 patches in 1 year
           Ankit Kumar Jaipuriar made 4 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
           Khushi Gautam made 3 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
           Hannah Meeks made 2 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
           Darshan Upadhyay made 2 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
           Priyadarshi, Apurva made 1 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 1 patches in 1 month, and 10 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Caolán McNamara made 166 review comments in 1 month, and 668 in 1 year
           Michael Stahl made 104 review comments in 1 month, and 1154 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 100 review comments in 1 month, and 780 in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 98 review comments in 1 month, and 420 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 66 review comments in 1 month, and 892 in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 62 review comments in 1 month, and 968 in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 60 review comments in 1 month, and 386 in 1 year
           Grandin, Noel made 60 review comments in 1 month, and 594 in 1 year
           Hossein made 50 review comments in 1 month, and 270 in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 34 review comments in 1 month, and 296 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         Unit test for tdf46733: sw: don't double-select column during deletecol ( Andrea Rosetti )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/146261
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           Aml-Hassan-Abd-El-hamid
           Willian Pessoa
           Alexandru-Costin Gheorghiu

+ Finalized and published blog post on an EasyHack
   + UNO API error reporting improvement – EasyHack
   https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/2023/10/26/uno-api-error-reporting-improvement-easyhack/
   + Added a new draft for another EasyHack
   Data type improvement - EasyHack
   https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/?p=986&preview=1&_ppp=ea8cd979b5

* Commit Access
   + None

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/Thorsten/László)
   + resting since: 4 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 175 ok: 167 ko:   2 fail ratio: 1.14% mean_ok:   7 ( 15) median_ok:   4 ( 13)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 174 ok: 172 ko:   2 fail ratio: 1.15% mean_ok:   7 ( 13) median_ok:   4 (  8)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 175 ok: 168 ko:   3 fail ratio: 1.71% mean_ok:   8 ( 15) median_ok:   5 ( 10)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 174 ok: 171 ko:   2 fail ratio: 1.15% mean_ok:   7 ( 14) median_ok:   4 (  9)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 396 ok: 272 ko: 113 fail ratio: 28.54% mean_ok:  41 ( 47) median_ok:  36 ( 45)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 408 ok: 341 ko:  41 fail ratio: 10.05% mean_ok:  21 ( 27) median_ok:  17 ( 21)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 356 ok: 327 ko:  15 fail ratio: 4.21% mean_ok:  49 ( 49) median_ok:  44 ( 44)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 373 ok: 284 ko:  69 fail ratio: 18.50% mean_ok:  68 ( 88) median_ok:  70 ( 77)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 467 ok: 240 ko: 181 fail ratio: 38.76% mean_ok:  95 ( 95) median_ok:  80 ( 81)
gerrit_master              jobs:  76 ok:  42 ko:  27 fail ratio: 35.53% mean_ok:  73 ( 74) median_ok:  67 ( 68)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 389 ok: 198 ko: 154 fail ratio: 39.59% mean_ok:  98 ( 99) median_ok:  86 ( 86)
    + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_231026.html
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days:
       3 CppunitTest_svx_unit                gerrit_windows
       3 CppunitTest_sw_mailmerge                gerrit_windows
       3 JunitTest_chart2_unoapi                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       4 UITest_calc_tests8                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      26 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      28 UITest_sw_navigator                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
     + in terms of test failures, unfortunately again high number of killed jobs + sw_navigator failures
     + apart from that, looks good
     + sw_navigator, changed to avoid oneprocess mode (Xisco)
       + restored some lost asserts
       + it seems it's still problematic
       + it's problematic for a different reason (Stephan)
         + fixed several tests on the Python side
         + Noel tried to fix it on the vcl side yesterday + today
         + suggest to not revert anything for now
         + it's a timer problem, if it's slow enough, then use-after-free happens
     + do we build SDK examples during CI on any platform? (Hossein)
       + yes, we do on Linux and macOS (Stephan)
       + if you have the build of "ODK" enabled
       + it's a subsequentcheck, so 'make check' has it
       + ie. the jenkins linux-clang-dbgutil config has it
       + want it also on Windows (Hossein)
       + you need to configure the SDK there first (Stephan)
         + easy on Linux / macOS
         + harder on Windows -> ignored that for now
         + feel free to look into it if you want
         + will take a look (Hossein)

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
     + Multi-page floating tables in Writer, see tdf#157119 for details (Miklos)
     + A11y update (Michael W)
        - mostly looking into how text formatting is reported by screen readers and
          spelling dialog
        - not too documented, trying to clarify this with the various upstreams
     + ItemSet rework (Michael S)
       + current iteration: easy test failures are fixed, the harder ones still need fixing
     + More appealing feedback for search (none found, end of document...) (Heiko)
       + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/156943


* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1041 (-12)
         + enhancements: 251  (-7)
         + needsUXEval: 10 (+2)
         + haveBackTrace: 10 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 35 (+0)
         + documentation:  2 (+0)
         + android:  0 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  11 (+0)


     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:
         + LibreOffice 7.6 stalls/crashes under Windows 11 with Norwegian locale when opening file dialog
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157135
             + similar to the one from last week
             + asking the repoters to try to bisect it
             + didn't hear back from them (Ilmari)

     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + Copy a table from Writer to plain text editor or as unformatted text pastes a list instead of matrix (like Calc does)
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144576
                + the request looks sensible (Miklos)
                  + not sure if it's easy to implement
AI:            + Hossein to provide some code pointers

         + Very slow save (macOS, ARM)
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152571
             + seems to happen during save, 45 seconds to save a simple document

* QA stats (Stéphane)
     + Advertising some interesting clarified/consolidated bugs:
         + Hyperlink focus:

             + [Calc] Cell containing hyperlink (URL or email), is not synchronized properly between cell and input line (mismatch in display, edit and selection): https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103447

             + [Writer] Is the drag-and-drop of links a good default behaviour? https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39015

             + [Writer] Inherited disappearance of link when trying to select it from its last character: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157872

             + [Writer] gtk3 inconsistency in hyperlink selection / move: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157871

           + Make autocorrect dialog pick the document language automatically: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143356

     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +102  +13 (-124) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        QA Administrators       29
        Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 24
        Buovjaga                8
        Balázs Varga (allotropia) 6
        Heiko Tietze            5
        Michael Weghorn         5
        Michael Stahl (allotropia) 4
        Mike Kaganski           4
        m.a.riosv               4
        Miklos Vajna            3

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 18
        Eyal Rozenberg          13
        Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 5
        Tuomas Hietala          3
        Petr Poruban            2
        Robert Großkopf         2
        William Friedman        2
        Grimeton                1
        J22Gim                  1
        Mike Sapsard            1

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Balazs Varga            6
        Heiko Tietze            4
        Michael Stahl           4
        Weghorn, Michael        4
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      3
        Patrick Luby            3
        Vajna, Miklos           3
        Xisco Fauli             3
        Justin Luth             2
                                1

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        Stéphane Guillou        40
        Raal                    8
        Heiko Tietze            7
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      4
        Kira Tubo               3
        Aron Budea              2
        Balazs Varga            2
        Bogdan B                2
        Nabet, Julien           2
        Xisco Fauli             2


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Stéphane Guillou       4
         Bogdan B               1
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Raal                   1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Stéphane Guillou       4
         Bogdan B               1
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Kaganski, Mike         1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1221(-6) bugs open of 12921(+10) total 16(+2) high prio.

      done by:
         Stéphane Guillou       5
         Bogdan B               1
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Kaganski, Mike         1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 10(+2)
      Calc          - 3(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 2(+0)
      UI            - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 11(+2)
      Linux         - 3(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 2(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 424(-2)
      Calc                     - 223(+0)
      Impress                  - 138(+0)
      LibreOffice              - 52(+1)
      Draw                     - 48(+0)
      Crashes                  - 44(+0)
      Base                     - 42(+0)
      Writer: docx filter      - 41(-1)
      UI                       - 36(-1)
      Borders                  - 35(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 34(+1)
      Writer: perf             - 33(-1)
      Printing and PDF export  - 25(-1)
      RTL                      - 24(+0)
      Chart                    - 22(+0)
      filters and storage      - 19(-1)
      BASIC                    - 17(+1)
      Writer: doc filter       - 15(+0)
      graphics stack           - 13(+0)
      Formula Editor           - 5(+0)
      framework                - 4(+0)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      sdk                      - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 1(+0)


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