Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Jan-11

[Heiko Tietze]

Present: Sahil, Hossein, Rafael, Heiko
Comments: Stuart, Cor, Stephané, Miklos, Cor, Ady, Stephane

Tickets/Topics

  * Implement a simple calculation of values to input size and position
    of draw objects
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158685
    + eg. "3+3,2" => "6,2"
    + Kind of a stretch for *needing* to do the simple calculations (Stuart)
    + could be useful for more complex stuff like "pi()/4 * 1.2345" or
      "sqr(sin(2)/cos(3)); similar to bug 72662 about the unit conversion (Heiko)
    + doubt if it is wise to start walking this path (Cor)
    + sounds useful (Sahil)
    + slash might be used as a number separator in some locales and one cannot
      be sure it is a divider (Hossein)
    + many tools provide the functionality anyway (eg. KRunner on Linux/KDE
      but also the search bar on Windows start a calculator) (Hossein)
    + very simple calculation wouldn't be enough anyway (Hossein)
    => WF

  * Move rows with protected cells does not give warning
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158682
    + agree that a message is needed (Stephané), but depending on the case
      + "Source contents not removed because cells are protected."
      + "Contents were copied but not removed because cells are protected"
      + "Protected cells can not be modified." (the stock message)
    + dragging of protected cells is not possible anyway
    + message box interrupts the workflow and we could also just block the
      drag feedback
      + however, paste is not available via menu/toolbar and the keyboard
        allows to quickly confirm (Heiko)
    + Agree, a similar message is useful (Hossein)
      + one message should be fine (Hossein)
    + "Protected cells cannot be dragged"
    + stock message is fine (Hossein)
    + don't change the cursor if DnD is not possible (Sahil)
      + could also be a blocking cursor symbol (Hossein)
    => show the stock message and consider the drag cursor

  * Original size button in image properties -> position and size tab
    doesn't restore original size for paper size exceeding images in
    Writer (and breaks image ratio)
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158545
    + rename to "Reset dimensions" (Telesto)
    + Word uses just "Reset"
    + Reason for restricting object size to page size is consistency;
      Writer defaults to capturing drawing objects inside the page
      frame (Miklos)
    + MSO365 allows scaling beyond the page and cuts off the extra part
    + seldom need for sizing beyond the page (Cor)
    + sizing the image beyond the page is desirable (Rafael, Hossein)
      + Word allows this but not to move the image out of the page
    + simply "Reset" and a tooltip with "Resets width and height to the
      original size, unless limited by the page size)
    + show original size as static text like in the compress dialog
      before the Reset button to make the function more clear (Hossein)
    + also keep the ratio in all cases
    => rename, add static size info, and fix the ratio bug

  * Better design for the Keep Ratio setting
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158531
    + not much benefit (Heiko)
    + go with a small button like in the sidebar (Rafael)
      + would be a toolbutton taking a lot of vertical space and
      + we cannot draw the connector arrows (Heiko)
    + what was the inspiration (Hossein)
      + GIMP has these buttons, for example
    + consistency is prime and we use typically checkboxes (Sahil)
    => go ahead (+2/0/-1); easy to revert

  * Comemnt marker makes it difficult to see the data in a cell
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158958
    + UNO command to toggle indicator on/off quickly (Stuart)
    + against a user-defined symbol, to revert the patch, and
      some default margin to make space for the symbol (Heiko)
    + open to UNO command to toggle the indicator on/off, a
      less obtrusive default color, different position for
      the indicator (Heiko)
    + suggest to add an expert options to control the dynamic size
      and another to disable the dynamic size (Heiko, Rafael)
    + use a different default color (Rafael)
      + is being discussed on bug 159096; maybe orange (Rafael)
    + make the default a bit smaller (Rafael, Heiko)
    + ideally do the best per code without option but if needed
      make it as simple as possible; option is good for now (Hossein)
    + good default make configuration unnecessary (at least the UI),
      use grid color and move the indicator to the edge (Rafael)
    + propose an expert value and use <=0 for dynamic size and everything
      else as static value (Heiko)
    + change is needed (Ady), expert option sounds good (Cor, Stephane)
    => go with the expert options
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