ESC meeting minutes: 2024-03-07

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Mar 7 15:41:31 UTC 2024


* Present:
     + Thorsten, Caolan, Cloph, Heiko, Hossein, Ilmari, Stephan, Stephane, Xisco, Miklos, Eike, Olivier, Michael S

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
     + 7.6: 7.6.6 RC1 this week, on Tue
     + 24.2.2 RC1 this week, today
     + RC2s for both in 2 weeks
     + Windows MAR updater status? (Thorsten)
       + later this week (Cloph)
     + app stores: discussion to move to 24.2 earlier (before 7.6 EOL)
       + maybe after 7.6.6 (so no 7.6.7 there)
       + the expectation is higher there, because of the app store price (Thorsten)
         + feedback on social media was to update sooner (Cloph)
         + not going via .0, but would switch to the new line sooner than the EOL of the old line
         + not set in stone, but want to maintain just one code line
         + if this is representive, then makes sense; if the feedback is representative (Thorsten)
         + whatever you do, you never please all users (Stephan)
         + still time to decide, would just skip 7.6.7 (Cloph)
           + would it worth a try to update only one app store earlier? (Thorsten)
           + or just listen to feedback after the change in process
         + was checking the release plan (Xisco)
           + 7.6.6 at the end of March
           + 24.2.2 will be the current 24.2 by that time
           + that's the plan: only switch to 24.2 by 24.2.3 (Cloph)
             + i.e. 5 weeks later
           + think .3 should be stable enough (Xisco)
             + no problem from QA point of view
     + 24.8 install set language pack changes (for Mac) (Cloph)
       + plan would be: install all languages, langpacks only add help
       + larger installation set, but the app store version has this setup already
       + good to get early feedback on this

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + Helpcontent2
        + New pages for Calc functions (ohallot)
        + Housekeeping and updates (ohallot, stragu, S. Horacek, J. NAbet...)
     + Guides
        + Update for Calc Guide (S. Fanning, ohallot, bantoniof)
        + Impress & DRaw guides (P. Schofield)
        + Sanity-check scripts for guides (bantoniof, ohallot)
          /dev-tools/userguides/
     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         278(278) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week    1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     13(-5)    39(8)      58(6)     226(-2)
          commented     13(-22)   81(8)     190(4)     884(-17)
           resolved      3(-5)    15(2)      25(3)     112(-1)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 51 changes in 1 month, and 70 changes in 1 year
           Olivier Hallot made 39 changes in 1 month, and 290 changes in 1 year
           Dione Maddern made 11 changes in 1 month, and 11 changes in 1 year
           Alain Romedenne made 10 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 8 changes in 1 month, and 89 changes in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 8 changes in 1 month, and 263 changes in 1 year
           Dan Dascalescu made 7 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 6 changes in 1 month, and 84 changes in 1 year
           *UNKNOWN* made 5 changes in 1 month, and 6 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 5 changes in 1 month, and 61 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         246(246) (topicUI) bugs open, 33(33) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month    3 months   12 months
              added      5(2)     10(2)      11(1)       24(1)
          commented     57(-3)   202(-33)   475(-56)   2027(-50)
            removed      0(0)      0(0)       1(-1)      15(0)
           resolved      6(-2)    28(-8)     79(-8)     318(-1)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 111 changes in 1 month, and 1240 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 41 changes in 1 month, and 260 changes in 1 year
           Ady made 35 changes in 1 month, and 140 changes in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 26 changes in 1 month, and 595 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 24 changes in 1 month, and 190 changes in 1 year
           Rafael Lima made 13 changes in 1 month, and 80 changes in 1 year
           Bob Harvey made 12 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 11 changes in 1 month, and 149 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 9 changes in 1 month, and 97 changes in 1 year
           Kelemen, Gabor made 8 changes in 1 month, and 29 changes in 1 year
     + [Bug 159652] Finding a way to join a suffix to the word immediately before it,
            using autocorrect function
     + [Bug 159486] Infobars' close (X) buttons' invisible hitboxes too small and
            hard to click
  -> + [Bug 160011] Hidden columns should not prevent text from preceding columns from
            overflowing over their cells
            + Excel shows the test and we cut it off, FWIW (Heiko)
     + [Bug 159985] Changing Macro Security level should warn about the need to reload
            the file to apply the settings
  -> + [Bug 159997] Request for Accounting Types of Number (Calc)
       + currency separated, zero hidden

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 2(+0) import failure, 0(+0) export failures
      - just two (old) issues remain
      - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
     + 4 coverity issues
      - fix for 3 submitted
     + 5 ossfuzz issues
      - 1 crash, non-standard crypto config

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
     + 7.6.3.2    8586(+367)
     + 7.6.4.1    36979(+2792)
     + 7.6.5.2    952(+740)
     + 24.2.0.3    9926(+1983)
     + 24.2.1.2    878(+0)


     - New in 24.2

     - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/static  `com::sun::star::document::DocumentProperties::create'::`1'::catch$14()


     - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/vcl::Window::Invalidate(InvalidateFlags)

     - Fixed by 289772c27fd523df545262614fb31d90314326df.

       - for the ones that have Svx3DPreviewControl::~Svx3DPreviewControl() in the bt

     - Thanks to Caolán


* Mentoring (Hossein)
   + Reviewed submissions from newcomers
   + Added a draft for GSoC project around test improvement
     Test improvement - More and better tests for LibreOffice
     https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/?p=1121&preview=1&_ppp=792f226d87
     + Discussed things around tests, pointed to QA Wiki, discussed some issues discussed with some volunteers
     + Happy to be able to get feedback and ideas
           committer...   1 week     1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      72(-4)     143(-18)    144(-21)     144(-21)
                reviews     426(-38)   1538(52)    3710(80)    12070(38)
                 merged     294(-39)   1238(19)    3383(39)    12482(-11)
              abandoned      23(6)       68(14)     172(-18)     663(9)
            own commits     200(-19)    771(28)    2293(-14)    9449(-77)
         review commits      71(-10)    321(18)     895(4)      3050(-21)
         contributor...   1 week      1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      41(-12)      71(-45)     72(-45)      73(-45)
                reviews     888(-52)    3122(52)    7998(22)    30096(-144)
                 merged      32(1)       125(17)     372(14)     1952(-39)
              abandoned      45(-104)    219(37)     306(40)      699(30)
            own commits      37(0)       155(11)     384(25)     1053(5)
         review commits       0(0)         0(0)        0(0)         0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 324(324)
        total 408(408)   assigned 25(25)   open 350(350)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Kurt Nordback made 19 patches in 1 month, and 21 patches in 1 year
           Dr. David Alan Gilbert made 17 patches in 1 month, and 40 patches in 1 year
           Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 12 patches in 1 month, and 85 patches in 1 year
           Dione Maddern made 8 patches in 1 month, and 24 patches in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 6 patches in 1 month, and 58 patches in 1 year
           Luv Sharma made 6 patches in 1 month, and 14 patches in 1 year
           Hubert Figuière made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
           Ahmed Hamed made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
           Weblate made 3 patches in 1 month, and 20 patches in 1 year
           vivek javiya made 3 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Caolán McNamara made 220 review comments in 1 month, and 1250 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 150 review comments in 1 month, and 1046 in 1 year
           Grandin, Noel made 134 review comments in 1 month, and 656 in 1 year
           Michael Stahl made 84 review comments in 1 month, and 1004 in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 76 review comments in 1 month, and 478 in 1 year
           Thorsten Behrens made 76 review comments in 1 month, and 620 in 1 year
           Christian Lohmaier made 70 review comments in 1 month, and 358 in 1 year
           Hossein made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 288 in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 60 review comments in 1 month, and 930 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 58 review comments in 1 month, and 776 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         [ full list in the agenda ]
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           Yiğit Akçay
           Pierre F (bger.ch)
           Sujatro Bhadra

* Outreachy (Ilmari)

* GSoC (Ilmari)
     + https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/programs/2024/organizations/libreoffice
     + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/2024
     + till March 18: Potential participants discuss application ideas

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
   + resting since: 20 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)
AI: Miklos to came up with an initial proposal

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 201 ok: 179 ko:  12 fail ratio: 5.97% mean_ok:  11 ( 25) median_ok:   8 ( 16)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 203 ok: 185 ko:  12 fail ratio: 5.91% mean_ok:  11 ( 24) median_ok:   8 ( 16)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 200 ok: 179 ko:  12 fail ratio: 6.00% mean_ok:  10 ( 23) median_ok:   8 ( 13)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 203 ok: 185 ko:  11 fail ratio: 5.42% mean_ok:  10 ( 24) median_ok:   8 ( 16)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 454 ok: 274 ko: 153 fail ratio: 33.70% mean_ok:  41 ( 53) median_ok:  37 ( 44)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 460 ok: 369 ko:  62 fail ratio: 13.48% mean_ok:  20 ( 31) median_ok:  16 ( 23)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 401 ok: 336 ko:  43 fail ratio: 10.72% mean_ok:  53 ( 55) median_ok:  48 ( 49)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 422 ok: 304 ko:  79 fail ratio: 18.72% mean_ok:  66 (114) median_ok:  56 (108)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 488 ok: 235 ko: 192 fail ratio: 39.34% mean_ok: 145 (147) median_ok: 131 (134)
gerrit_master              jobs:  79 ok:  30 ko:  36 fail ratio: 45.57% mean_ok: 131 (132) median_ok: 128 (128)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 408 ok: 205 ko: 155 fail ratio: 37.99% mean_ok: 145 (146) median_ok: 131 (131)
    + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_240307.html
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 aborted by jenkins job timeout                gerrit_windows
       3 JunitTest_linguistic_unoapi                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       5 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       5 UITest_writer_tests8                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       7 JunitTest_sw_complex                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      11 CppunitTest_sw_layoutwriter3                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
      15 CppunitTest_sw_a11y                gerrit_windows
      25 UITest_impress_tests                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      + we had a problem with UITest_impress_tests (Cloph)
        + it was a problem with code, now fixed (Noel, Justin)
      + CppunitTest_sw_layoutwriter3 are caused by not-yet-submitted changes
      + CppunitTest_sw_a11y is flaky
      + few weeks ago, CppunitTest_test_accessiblity was disabled on Windows (Xisco)
        + should we also disable sw_a11y on Windows?
        + may get input from Michael W regarding this (Miklos)
      + ML decided to mostly send all changes to the "build sequentially" queue (Cloph)
        + may need to re-train it; it's too pessimistic

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
     + A11y update (Michael W)
     + importing 3D scenes from MSO (Regina)
       + Anyone interested in this topic can find the current state in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/164510
     + Calc HTML import/export, google sheets extensions (Miklos)
       + meant to add better copy&paste for text, booleans, (formatted) numbers & formulas
       + see tdf#159483, it's now faily complete
     + WhatsNew/Welcome dialog (Heiko)
       + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/163739
       + modal dialog after a new major release
       + expert option to avoid it if wanted.
       + this is not a first start dialog, but a screen for upgrading users
         + reason to introduce this: we only have a boring infobar
         + if you start up rare enough, 4 infobars can stack up
         + new release notes guidelines page on wiki: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/Guidelines

* COOL Days 2024 (Miklos)
   + https://www.collaboraoffice.com/cool-days-2024/  8th -> 10th April
   + contributors can submit 5 mins talk proposals at https://eventyay.com/e/0512424d/cfs
   + LibreOffice Technology hackfest as part of it

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1133 (+1)
         + enhancements: 281  (+9)
         + needsUXEval: 8 (+3)
         + haveBackTrace: 10 (+1)
         + needsDevAdvice: 45 (+1)
         + documentation:  8 (+1)
         + android:  0 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  9 (+0)

     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:
         + Selection invisible in a11y High Contrast modes with SKIA/Raster, Skia/Vulkan unaffected
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160036
             + bisected to Noel

      Old:
         + Crash at undo of RTF Paste
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159385
             + bisected to Tomaz
      Fixed:


     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + Exported pptx cannot be opened in PowerPoint because a referenced part does not exist
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159931
             + Fixed. thanks to Sarper

* QA stats (Stéphane)
     + Interesting consolidated/clarified reports:
         * sc: pasted data range wrong if sheet moved after copying: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140868
         * sc: comments shown behind form controls in most cases: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45085
         * sw: Hyperlinks not clickable in PDF export: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142133
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +124  -1 (-121) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 24
        Mike Kaganski           11
        QA Administrators       8
        Heiko Tietze            7
        Buovjaga                6
        Julien Nabet            5
        Xisco Faulí             5
        Caolán McNamara         4
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 4
        Noel Grandin            3

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 7
        Kevin Suo               4
        Bogaboga Man            3
        Mike Kaganski           3
        Peter Gervai            3
        prrvchr                 3
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 2
        Jeff Fortin Tam         2
        Timur                   2
        bugzilla                2

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Kaganski, Mike          6
        Xisco Fauli             5
        Caolán McNamara         3
        Grandin, Noel           3
        Kelemen, Gabor          3
        Denis                   2
        Heiko Tietze            2
        Vajna, Miklos           2
                                1
        Balazs Varga            1

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        Stéphane Guillou        24
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      13
        *UNKNOWN*               12
        Nabet, Julien           4
        Rafael Lima             4
        Xisco Fauli             4
        Dennis Roczek           3
        Raal                    3
        Vernon, Stuart Foote    3
        m.a.riosv               3


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Aron Budea             3
         Raal                   3
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Stéphane Guillou       1
         Xisco Fauli            1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Aron Budea             3
         Raal                   3
         Dennis Roczek          1
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Stéphane Guillou       1
         Xisco Fauli            1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1251(-4) bugs open of 13236(+20) total 20(-2) high prio.

      done by:
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     2
         Robert Großkopf        2
         Stéphane Guillou       2
         Aron Budea             1
         Jim Avera              1
         Rafael Lima            1
         Henschel, Regina       1
         Kevin Suo              1
         Vernon, Stuart Foote   1
         Xisco Fauli            1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 13(-1)
      LibreOffice   - 2(+0)
      Calc          - 1(+0)
      Impress       - 1(+0)
      Printing and PDF export - 1(+0)
      UI            - 1(+0)
      Draw          - 0(-1)

    by OS:
      All           - 14(-1)
      Linux         - 5(-1)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 1(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 446(-6)
      Calc                     - 223(-8)
      Impress                  - 128(+3)
      LibreOffice              - 54(+0)
      Draw                     - 51(+0)
      Crashes                  - 46(-5)
      Writer: docx filter      - 45(+0)
      Base                     - 39(+1)
      Borders                  - 36(+0)
      UI                       - 36(+1)
      Writer: perf             - 35(+1)
      Writer: other filter     - 31(+0)
      Printing and PDF export  - 27(+1)
      Chart                    - 24(+1)
      RTL                      - 23(+0)
      filters and storage      - 23(+0)
      BASIC                    - 20(+1)
      Writer: doc filter       - 16(+0)
      graphics stack           - 12(+0)
      Formula Editor           - 7(+0)
      framework                - 3(+0)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      sdk                      - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 1(+0)


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