<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 14"><meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 14"><link rel=File-List href="cid:filelist.xml@01CC2073.CB94B470"><style></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='tab-interval:.5in'><div class=WordSection1>I also notice that the Apache CLA is not a copyright assignment, it is simply a non-exclusive license with the usual attestation that I have the right to grant the license and it is my original work. (Patch contributions apparently don't even require a CLA, but committers do.) One could make the same contribution to both an Apache project and LibreOffice, although it takes more work. For individual contributors such as myself: <http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt><o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>So, in that regard, it is not like the transfer that I understand Sun/Oracle required for contributions to OO.o.<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p> - Dennis<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>PS: It is personally appealing to me that the Apache project proposes to use the tools I already use for other projects (i.e., Subversion and JIRA). I don't have any plans to contribute anything, but it is heartening to know that part of the learning curve would be handled for me if I chose to do so.<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p>From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamilton@acm.org] <o:p></o:p><http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-June/013136.html><o:p></o:p>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 13:12<o:p></o:p>To: 'Tibby Lickle'; 'libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org'<o:p></o:p>Subject: RE: [Libreoffice] FYI: Latest Oracle move wrt to OpenOffice.org<o:p></o:p><o:p> </o:p>I think this is about licenses.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p>Under the Apache 2.0 license, I expect we will see contributions from IBM and others for whom reciprocal licenses are toxic. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p>I recently noticed that the ODF Toolkit Java bits are Apache licensed already, so that is also helpful.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p>[ ... ]<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p>At the moment, I feel a bit conflicted, caught straddling between preference for user discussions and bug submissions here, and my established desire to develop and contribute code that is acceptable to Apache-licensed projects. And hey, Subversion works for me.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p>- Dennis<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p>PS: I notice that the proposal to create an Apache Incubator omits the risk of their being a fork and divided developer community. There is this presumption: "Both Oracle and ASF agree that the OpenOffice.org development community, previously fragmented, would re-unite under ASF to ensure a stable and long term future for OpenOffice.org. ASF would enable corporate, non-profit, and volunteer stakeholders to contribute code in a collaborative fashion." I agree with what ASF would enable, but I don't think it is in the power of ASF and Oracle to ensure re-uniting of the development community. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p>[ ... ]<o:p></o:p></div></body></html>