So is this not a bug then? It seems to me that going back to a space seems much more functional as the default makes it so that the look of the bullets/outline is very sloppy. If it is a bug, I'm still interested in tracking down the code responsible and altering it. This will be my first attempt to contribute to LO and it's been an ongoing annoyance for me as I outline a lot. Thanks for the input from both of you <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Regina Henschel <<a href="mailto:rb.henschel@t-online.de">rb.henschel@t-online.de</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi Joel, Joel Madero schrieb:<div class="im"> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> I've never used dnl check before, can you give me a quick tutorial or link me somewhere? Bug I'm trying to fix is this: <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/831305" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/831305</a> You can see my section under jmadero, that's what I'm trying to pintpoint. I'm installing version 2.1.0 from OOo to see if the bug still exists, if it doesn't I'll start comparing code to see if I can find out why it currently exists, part of compiling from source is just to get the experience, also this way if I make a patch or an alteration I should be able to recompile relatively easily. </blockquote> </div> The problem comes up, because the default setting has changed from inserting space between number and text to inserting a tab. The changes in numbering where made from OOo2.4 to OOo3 together with the change from ODF1.0/1.1 to ODF 1.2. A hint to some of the changes are in [1] and [2]. Currently the tap stop position of the anonymous predefined styles are the same for all kind of numberings. Perhaps it is possible to use different positions or even kind of separators for the different predefined anonymous styles. For the named styles an improvement is not quite so urgent because those users who work with named styles are likely able to change the settings by themselves. The problem is connected to the claim, that the indent don't work for numbers with more than one digit for example in numbering kind (#). [1] <a href="https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=89178" target="_blank">https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=89178</a> [2] <a href="http://specs.openoffice.org/writer/numbering/NewListLevelAttrs.odt" target="_blank">http://specs.openoffice.org/writer/numbering/NewListLevelAttrs.odt</a> Kind regards Regina </blockquote></div>