<div dir="ltr">Thorsten I think as well you forgot a useful feature being able to reply to the patch sets through an email as I had previously mentioned. </div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote"> On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Thorsten Behrens <<a href="mailto:thb@documentfoundation.org" target="_blank">thb@documentfoundation.org</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 12:16:51AM +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote: > > And then people will cross-post, > > Why? I dont see anyone posting to the gerrit list directly at > all. If you want you comment on that do it in a comment on gerrit > (send via email or whatever). This is what people are doing right > now -- I rarely see someone to reply on a a gerrit mail on the > dev-list (and that is a Good Thing as replying on the dev-list keeps > the stuff invisible on gerrit). > Ok - but then I see even less reason for another list, if it is read-only. Gerrit already lets me get email for any number of events, with filters & all. So if additional action is necessary anyway - which subscribing to a 2nd list is - why not suggest to everyone interested to customize his or her own private gerrit firehose? > The folks on the dev-list are already missing more than half of the > discussion as as Lionel notes the mailing list does not get the > comments -- which it where almost ~all the interesting stuff > happens. So the firehose we have right now is sprinkling you enough > to get wet, but not enough to get clean. > Sure. But it seems people appreciate the occasional email poke about new patches - why else was there the suggestion to have a daily digest from the gerrit list? > Subscribing a second list is not a lot of effort -- probably a lot > less effort than the custom filtering ~everyone is doing right now, > while still having to poll gerrit to see the comments (which are the > relevant bits). > I'm with you that the current situation leaves something to be desired. I just disagree with the proposed solution, which in my mind does not help anyone with deeper interest in LibreOffice hacking - they'd have to subscribe to two lists, get even more email, and need even more filtering to stay afloat. To keep this constructive, my alternative proposal would be: - cut down current gerrit email somewhat, to an acceptable level * it seems there is ~consensus that at least new patches should be notified to the list - educate folks on how to make use of gerrit's Watch / Notification feature - it should be possible to get the equivalent of the proposed new list setup individually, no? - encourage to have larger discussions on the dev list - hackers watching such a discussion on gerrit could simply fwd the notification email to the dev-list. That hopefully prevents the 'oh, decision $foo happened on that other list' argument, and ghettoization into pro-hackers and volunteer hackers lists. Cheers, -- Thorsten _______________________________________________ LibreOffice mailing list <a href="mailto:LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org">LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org</a> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice</a> </blockquote></div> -- Jonathan Aquilina </div>