<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div id="yiv6629553410"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_8"><span id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_14">Update.</span></div><div id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_8"><span><br></span></div><div id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_8"><span>File: clean pattern file:</span></div><div id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_8" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span
id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_17"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_21" target="_blank" href="http://pastebin.com/4qF2dh6s">http://pastebin.com/4qF2dh6s</a><br clear="none"></span></div><div id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_8" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br clear="none" id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_25"></div><div id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_8" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">File: working file with notes:</div><div id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_8" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family:
HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_30" target="_blank" href="http://pastebin.com/9v8L9WQj">http://pastebin.com/9v8L9WQj</a><br clear="none" id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9760"></div><div id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_8" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br clear="none" id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_34"></div><div id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_8" style="background-color:transparent;">Akhiran -i dan apitan meN-i</div><div id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_8" style="background-color:transparent;">-i suffixes and meN-i circumfix</div><div
id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_8" style="background-color:transparent;">all possible particles and possessive pronoun combination</div><div id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_8" style="background-color:transparent;"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_8" style="background-color:transparent;">What these do:</div><div id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_8" style="background-color:transparent;">remove certain hyphens on words that ended with the letter i and those that takes the suffix -i and circumfix meN-i</div><div id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_8" style="background-color:transparent;">example: <span class="yiv6629553410Apple-tab-span" id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_10543" style="white-space:pre;"> </span></div><div id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_8" style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size:
16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal;"> 1) me-ra-wat-i-nya > me-ra-wati-nya</div><div id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_8" style="background-color:transparent;"><span class="yiv6629553410Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre;"> </span>2) be-ra-ni-nya > be-rani-nya</div><div id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_8" style="background-color:transparent;">This should not affect words that end with the letter i that takes the suffix -kan and circumfix meN-kan</div><div id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_8" style="background-color:transparent;">example<span class="yiv6629553410Apple-tab-span" id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_10545" style="white-space:pre;"> </span></div><div id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_8" style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px;
font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-style: normal;"> 1) be-ra-ni-kan > be-ra-ni-kan.</div><div id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_8" style="background-color:transparent;"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_8" style="background-color:transparent;">This is not the ideal solution, that requires a word list of all words that would take the -i and meN-i affixes and/or <span style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 12pt;">a word list of words that ended with the letter i. But it should work. (Theoretically. Need testing).</span></div><div class="yiv6629553410yqt8253656979" id="yiv6629553410yqt86692"><div class="yiv6629553410yahoo_quoted" id="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1386682166337_10" style="display: block;"> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9627"
style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9628" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Monday, December 9, 2013 11:32 AM, Bashirah Mazuki <sheera_azm@yahoo.com> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv6629553410y_msg_container"><div id="yiv6629553410"><div><div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9630" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div>File: clean pattern file:</div><div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9631" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue',
Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://pastebin.com/DGZLDK5F">http://pastebin.com/DGZLDK5F</a><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9632" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9633" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">File: working file with notes: </div><div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9634" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue',
Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://pastebin.com/x0P0X2e2">http://pastebin.com/x0P0X2e2</a></span></div><div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9635" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9636" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">(please be kind when you find the inane comments that I missed. some of them are really old)<br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv6629553410yqt9746486424" id="yiv6629553410yqt52404"><div
class="yiv6629553410yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;"> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9638" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9639" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Monday, December 9, 2013 8:39 AM, Bashirah Mazuki <bashirah.mazuki@yahoo.com> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv6629553410y_msg_container"><div id="yiv6629553410"><div><div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9641" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div><span>Hi
Sharuzzaman,</span></div><div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9642" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9643" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>No, I'm not
in KL, and not expecting to be there anytime soon. I'll leave the packaging details to you then? On recollection, I did use the files from l10n-ms to get started the first time round, but they no longer work with current versions.</span></div><div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9644" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9645" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>- b -</span></div><div class="yiv6629553410yqt0346012377" id="yiv6629553410yqt31843"><div class="yiv6629553410yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;"> <br clear="none">
<br clear="none"> <div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9647" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9648" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Sunday, December 8, 2013 11:13 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan <sharuzzaman@gmail.com> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv6629553410y_msg_container"><div id="yiv6629553410"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Hi Bashirah,<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>OK, let's do this together. I'll try to find out how to properly package a dictionary and let's built a beta version to be tested by Malaysian.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div>
You may contact me off this mailing list if you want to.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div>By the way, are you somewhere around KL? If you are, maybe we can have a face-to-face meeting with the open source people who might be interested to join.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none"></div><div>Thanks.<br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div></div><div class="yiv6629553410gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv6629553410yqt3919137188" id="yiv6629553410yqt71178"><div class="yiv6629553410gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Bashirah Mazuki <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:bashirah.mazuki@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:bashirah.mazuki@yahoo.com">bashirah.mazuki@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
<blockquote class="yiv6629553410gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9651" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;"><div>
<div><div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9652" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;"><div><div><div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9653" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;">
<div><span>Hi, Sharuzzaman,</span></div><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span>Clarification: A</span><span style="font-size:12pt;">ll the way back when it was version 1 or thereabout of Open Office </span><span style="font-size:12pt;">I started working on the hyphen dictionary - by the time I stopped about a year later I've already have outlined all the work needed, so when
I looked again at it mid this year I can and have followed my notes to finish it. It's finished, or at least theoretically usable. </span></div><div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9656" style="font-style: normal; font-size: 12pt; background-color: transparent; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;">
<span style="font-size:12pt;"><br clear="none"></span></div><div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9658" style="font-style: normal; font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;">
What I need is technical help - right now its a plain text file since have no idea how to
integrate it to Libre Office or even where to
upload it. (Do I just attach it to the mailing list?). Furthermore, and this is something I've been wondering about, it will need to be tested against a lot of texts to make sure it's actually usable, and that is not something I have. Is it better to have a small pool of testers (your team, if they are available) first or do we just put it out and fix it along? </div>
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A major issue is the fact that I've completely ignored proper nouns by design. Adding them would be fairly easy, if tedious, but a list of common proper nouns would be necessary if you have it.</div><span class="yiv6629553410HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"></font></span><div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9661" style="font-style: normal; font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;">
<br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9662" style="font-style: normal; font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;">-b-</div><div><div class="yiv6629553410h5">
<div><div><div style="display:block;"> <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> <div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9664" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9665" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> On Sunday, December 8, 2013 4:27 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:sharuzzaman@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:sharuzzaman@gmail.com">sharuzzaman@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div>
<div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Hi Bashirah,<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>I'm from Malaysia, and a member of Malaysian Open Source community.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>
Long time ago, we already embarked on the project to provide native Malay translation of the menu, and also dictionary for OpenOffice, but it was never completed. The project is l10n-ms in sourceforge.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none"></div>If you need any help, do let me know. I will gather back the team, and hopefully we can complete this.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>I'm also not familiar with the technical setup. I'm sure someone in this list would be able to help.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none"></div>Thanks.<br clear="none"><div><div><div><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div></div><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div>On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Bashirah Mazuki <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:bashirah.mazuki@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:bashirah.mazuki@yahoo.com">bashirah.mazuki@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div><div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9668" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;">
<div>
Hi, a few months ago I picked up a really old project of mine. My notes were enough to complete it, but now it needs testing and I'm at loss as to how proceed. Please assume a very rusty skillset.</div><div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9669" style="font-style: normal; font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;">Furthermore, if it's of interest, it is tailored to the Malaysian Melayu Baku ideal, so this it might not be useful much for Indonesian, at least without much modifications.</div>
<span><font color="#888888"></font></span><div class="yiv6629553410yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1386682166337_9670" style="font-style: normal; font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;">
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