<div class="moz-text-html" lang="x-western"> Just FYI, I'm having problems sending email, I'm CCing myself to confirm the message was sent. I use the simplest [RTF / HTML / TAB-delimted] formating to export textual data so the End User can open the document in their Word Processor, Spreadsheet, or paste the data into an email (whatever they are using). <blockquote style='border-left:2px solid #CCCCCC;padding:0 1em'>By simplest, I mean as much as necessary, but no more than necessary: utilitarian. </blockquote> Should I be able to RTF format the page count ({\info{\nofpages}}) in a footer using LibreOffice? I (can / do) not know (and do not care) how many pages there will be when creating a text document (whatever paper size and/or margin sizes they will be using). \nofpages appears to have been documented since RTF Version 1.0 in 1987 NUMPAGES appears to have been documented since RTF Version in 1.9 2008 <blockquote style='border-left:2px solid #CCCCCC;padding:0 1em'>It appears that the RTF Spec seems to indicate that a bare-bones page footer option could be something like: {\footer\qc Page X\chpgn X of Y{\info{\nofpages}}Y\par} (\qc can also be \ql or \qr) Can/Should this work in LibreOffice or is this a mis-applaction of the RTF Controls? Opening such a document shows: Page XPage numbers<sdfield type="PAGE" subtype="RANDOM" format="PAGE"></sdfield>X of YY - Page numbers being the text for field code Page Number <blockquote style='border-left:2px solid #CCCCCC;padding:0 1em'>It is missing the appearence of Statistics - Statistics being the text for field code Page Count <blockquote style='border-left:2px solid #CCCCCC;padding:0 1em'>It appears as: Page X1X of YY - in print preview </blockquote> For now, I think it should show: Page XPage numbers<sdfield type="PAGE" subtype="RANDOM" format="PAGE"></sdfield>X of YStatisticsY <blockquote style='border-left:2px solid #CCCCCC;padding:0 1em'> <blockquote style='border-left:2px solid #CCCCCC;padding:0 1em'>I put in a bug report to LO to change the text of Page Numbers (plural) to Page Number (singular) and the text of Statistics to Page Count (FWIW) </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> I reverse-enginerred a LibreOffice v.3.6.7.2 creation and stripped out all the fluff and the page footer appears as follows ({{\field{\*\fldinst NUMPAGES }{\fldrslt 1}}}): <blockquote style='border-left:2px solid #CCCCCC;padding:0 1em'>{\footer\qc{Page X}{{\field{\*\fldinst PAGE }{\fldrslt }}} {X of Y} {{\field{\*\fldinst NUMPAGES }{\fldrslt 1}}} {Y}\par} <blockquote style='border-left:2px solid #CCCCCC;padding:0 1em'>This does show: Page XPage numbers<sdfield type="PAGE" subtype="RANDOM" format="PAGE"></sdfield>X of YStatisticsY This does show: Page X1X of Y1Y - in print preview </blockquote> </blockquote> So I am not hopeless and I can use the page count code in the footer of LibreOffice v.3.6.7.2 <blockquote style='border-left:2px solid #CCCCCC;padding:0 1em'>I was told one time that RTF Version 1.5 was as complicated as needed for simple text use: bold, italic, header, footer, and the such like. <blockquote style='border-left:2px solid #CCCCCC;padding:0 1em'>Is 'NUMPAGES' backwards compatible to RTF Version 1.5??? (or did {\info{\nofpages}} never work anyway) </blockquote> </blockquote> Please advise. Thanks, Tracey Ref: <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="672"> <col width="84"> <col width="396"> <col width="192"> <tbody> <tr valign="top"> <td style="border: medium none ; padding: 0in;" width="84"> Version: </td> <td style="border: medium none ; padding: 0in;" width="396"> RTF Version 1.9.1 </td> <td style="border: medium none ; padding: 0in;" width="192"> Microsoft Technical Support </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td style="border: medium none ; padding: 0in;" height="27" width="84"> Subject: </td> <td style="border: medium none ; padding: 0in;" width="396"> Rich Text Format (RTF) Specification </td> <td style="border: medium none ; padding: 0in;" width="192"> Specification </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td style="border-style: none none solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color rgb(0, 0, 0); border-width: medium medium 1.5pt; padding: 0in;" height="19" width="84"> Contents: </td> <td style="border-style: none none solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color rgb(0, 0, 0); border-width: medium medium 1.5pt; padding: 0in;" width="396"> <sdfield type="DOCINFO" subtype="CUSTOM" name="Pages">278</sdfield> Pages </td> <td style="border-style: none none solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color rgb(0, 0, 0); border-width: medium medium 1.5pt; padding: 0in;" width="192"> 03/2008–RTF Specification </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> Page 37 in the Information Group section: <dl> <dd> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="649"> <col width="535"> <thead> <tr valign="top"> <td style="border: medium none ; padding: 0in;" width="114"> \nofpagesN </td> <td style="border: medium none ; padding: 0in;" width="535"> Number of pages </td> </tr> </thead> </table> </dd> </dl> Page 143 in the Page Information section: <dl> <dd> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="643"> <col width="115"> <col width="528"> <thead> <tr valign="top"> <td style="border: medium none ; padding: 0in;" width="115"> \chpgn </td> <td style="border: medium none ; padding: 0in;" width="528"> Current page number (as in headers). </td> </tr> </thead> </table> </dd> </dl> Page 258 of the index: <table cellpadding="7" cellspacing="0" width="667"> <col width="253"> <col width="204"> <col width="168"> <thead> <tr valign="top"> <td style="border: medium none ; padding: 0in;" width="253"> \nofpagesN 87 </td> <td style="border: medium none ; padding: 0in;" width="204"> <a class="western" href="mailbox:///D%7C/Email.Thunder/Inbox?number=45216#Information_Group">Information Group</a> </td> <td style="border: medium none ; padding: 0in;" width="168"> Value </td> </tr> </thead> </table> Tracey wrote: <blockquote style='border-left:2px solid #CCCCCC;padding:0 1em' cite="mid:55971B04.7070102@gte.net" type="cite"> <blockquote style='border-left:2px solid #CCCCCC;padding:0 1em' type="cite">Just curious, why do you ask?</blockquote> I want to know what RTF functionality LibreOffice Writer does and does not support. :-) <blockquote style='border-left:2px solid #CCCCCC;padding:0 1em'>Since the 3 controls were labled as RTF Controls: I suspected that they might be acutal/functional controls, but maybe with typographical errors. </blockquote> Many/Most of Microsoft's RTF Specification Documents have numerous technical typographical errors: <blockquote style='border-left:2px solid #CCCCCC;padding:0 1em'>mis-spelling control names in the examples controls spelt one way in the body of the document and differently in the index controls in the main section but not in the index and controls in the index and not in the main section </blockquote> <blockquote style='border-left:2px solid #CCCCCC;padding:0 1em'> <blockquote style='border-left:2px solid #CCCCCC;padding:0 1em'>It does not appear that Microsoft was ever really serious about RTF Specification Documentation.</blockquote> </blockquote> I reported an RTF bug in 2011 and it seems to have been resolved some time in 2013 <blockquote style='border-left:2px solid #CCCCCC;padding:0 1em'>I downloaded the last/latest version (3.6.7.2) that I think will work with Windows 2000 (since that is what I use). Since I did not find RTF Technical Information in the LibreOffice Help file I downloaded the archived source code. I searched for files that contains "RTF" and found rtfkeywd.hxx which also has the year of 2013 in the time/date stamp. I compared the rtfkeywd.hxx entries with the index entries from RTF Specification Documentation v1.9.1 and found differences. </blockquote> Just FYI, Tracey Miklos Vajna-4 [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] wrote: <blockquote style='border-left:2px solid #CCCCCC;padding:0 1em' cite="mid:20150703160106.GW1014@collabora.co.uk" type="cite">Hi, On Fri, Jul 03, 2015 at 07:59:01AM -0700, tracey002 <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4153555&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]</a>> wrote: > Can someone please identify the following RTF Controls? > > \facpgsxn 162 > \nextcset 249 > \tql 371 > After the control, the number is the line in the *rtfkeywd.hxx* file > > I assume the category "RTF Control" means the controls are native to RTF, > but I can not find them in the documentation The last version of RTF specification is here: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.microsoft.com/en-US/Download/details.aspx?id=10725" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">http://www.microsoft.com/en-US/Download/details.aspx?id=10725</a> All the above 3 RTF control words are not part of the specification, so most probably some legacy OOo extension that we inherited in LO. As far as I see: - facpgsxn is not used for anything LO, could be removed - nextcset seems to be an alias for \ansi in the shared RTF filter (not used by Writer, but used by Calc and Impress) - tql seems to be used for left-aligned tabs in the shared RTF filter (not used by Writer, but used by Calc and Impress) Just curious, why do you ask? If possible, please don't depend on these control words, it happened already in the past that such custom RTF extension had been removed and replaced by something that is part of the RTF spec (at least on the export side). 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