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Hi List,<br>
<br>
this issue needs to be discussed. I put Regina and Xisco on direct
CC to reach them. Xisco is so kind to fix errors on the SVG filter
in the filter module and asks me for reviews (which I am happily
ready to do), but this shows that eventually double work is done and
we need to discuss.<br>
<br>
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<span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">As you
might know, we have two SVG importers, (a) the one in filter which
you are
working on, and (b) one in svgio.<o:p></o:p></span><span
style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"> While (a)
converts SVG to XML as input for loading it as ODF in the office,
(b) loads a
single SVG as graphic and adds/embeds it as such as content to a
GraphicObject
in any application. E.g. (a) is used when opeing an SVG, while (b)
is used when
D&D or insert graphic is used. Both have their usages, but
there are
differences. Let’s try to collect some:<o:p></o:p></span>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<br>
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style="mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-ansi-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">(a)<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Is<o:p></o:p></span><br>
<span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;
mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;mso-ansi-language:
EN-US" lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Less
capable than (b)<o:p></o:p></span><br>
<span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;
mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;mso-ansi-language:
EN-US" lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">More
generic than (b)<o:p></o:p></span><br>
<span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;
mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;mso-ansi-language:
EN-US" lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Does
not keep (a) internally and unchanged<o:p></o:p></span><br>
<span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;
mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;mso-ansi-language:
EN-US" lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Can
support multiple-pages SVG docs (i guess?)<o:p></o:p></span><br>
<span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span><br>
<br>
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style="mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-ansi-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">(b)<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Is<o:p></o:p></span><br>
<span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;
mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;mso-ansi-language:
EN-US" lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">More
capable<o:p></o:p></span><br>
<span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;
mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;mso-ansi-language:
EN-US" lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Converts
to Primitives<o:p></o:p></span><br>
<span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;
mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;mso-ansi-language:
EN-US" lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Further
usable (paint, print, PDF export, 'break' to process/use the
contained geometries, usable as
FillStyle, generally in all office processing where GraphicObjects
are used<o:p></o:p></span><br>
<span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;
mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;mso-ansi-language:
EN-US" lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Better
integrated to the office ((everywhere where GraphicObjects are)<o:p></o:p></span><br>
<span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;
mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;mso-ansi-language:
EN-US" lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Keeps
the orig SVG, can be saved anytime using context menu on
GraphicObjects<o:p></o:p></span><br>
<span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;
mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;mso-ansi-language:
EN-US" lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Keeps
the orig as graphic embedded in ODF (as all other graphics)<o:p></o:p></span><br>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p><br>
</o:p></span></p>
<span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">It makes
from my POV no sense to develop two SVG filters. It is extra work
and users
will be irritated when in one case the SVG looks different from
other cases
using the same SVG in te same program. It is also good to have a
generic SVG
filter like (a), but it culd use (b). Imagine (a) creating a draw
doc with one
page and placing the SVG as GraphicObject there, all done. For
MultiPage SVGs
that should be changed to create one page per SVG page with the
adapted
single-page SVGs as GraphicObject content. That would allow fast
conversion,
keeping generic and use a single SVG filter.<o:p></o:p></span><span
style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"><o:p><br>
<br>
Due to this situation I would propose to:<br>
<br>
- work on changing the SVG importer (a) to creating simple docs
with GraphicObjects containing the SVG as gereric format, not do
own SVG conversion any longer<br>
- put thus created free time in improving/fixing (b)<br>
</o:p></span><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"><br>
...What do you
think?<o:p></o:p></span>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 04.11.2015 um 15:30 schrieb Regina
Henschel:<br>
</div>
<blockquote cite="mid:563A1699.8010102@t-online.de" type="cite">Hi
Caolán,
<br>
<br>
Caolán McNamara schrieb:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">We have svgio which is being used for
insert->image->from file and
<br>
filter/source/svg which is being used for open file.
<br>
<br>
Which one is "the future", and what prevents us from using it in
both
<br>
places ?
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
I suggest to use svgio in both cases (as Apache OpenOffice does)
for following reasons:
<br>
- It is double work to maintain two import filters. The filter
used for File > Open has a lot of bugs, and no one has fixed
them.
<br>
- The file-open filter automatically converts the svg-file, but
ODF is not able to describe all features of svg. If the svg-file
is only rendered as svg, then it is possible to show it more
correctly.
<br>
- The svgio filter keeps the svg-file, therefore no data is lost.
<br>
- Because converting a svg-file to ODF will loose information,
such converting should not be done automatically, but only on
explicit user request.
<br>
<br>
Kind regards
<br>
Regina
<br>
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