<div dir="ltr"><div>If you have a bug in unity-greeter (in short, anything graphical on login) then file it against that (<a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+filebug">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+filebug</a>).</div> <div> </div><div>You can use other greeters if you find the UI of unity-greeter to be unsuitable. A first try would be lightdm-gtk-greeter which is used by XFCE.</div><div> </div><div>--Robert</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On 8 July 2014 13:37, Robert Heller <<a href="mailto:heller@deepsoft.com" target="_blank">heller@deepsoft.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div class="">At Tue, 8 Jul 2014 13:07:44 +1200 Robert Ancell <<a href="mailto:robert.ancell@gmail.com">robert.ancell@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > > > Hi Robert. > > I responded to you on June 29th: > <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/lightdm/2014-June/000628.html" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/lightdm/2014-June/000628.html</a> </div>The issue here is that /var is a RAMDISK (that is lost on a reboot). <div class=""> > > To answer your further questions: > - While many systems are likely only set up with one user set to autologin > it is not uncommon to have multiple user accounts with and without > autologin. I do expect this use case to work fine. > - Unity Greeter (the default greeter used in Ubuntu) does not give visual > indication of timed logins (<a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1121660" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1121660</a>) </div>That kind of sucks... <div class=""> > - The version of LightDM in 14.04 does not support automatic login after a > session ends (<a href="https://launchpad.net/bugs/1302491" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/bugs/1302491</a>) </div>Ah, this is useful information. I see that these two things are in the bug list -- are there plans to fix these problems? Or is the version with 14.04 stuck with these 'bugs'? <div class=""> > - Yes, you can use alternative display managers in Ubuntu. For example, GDM. </div>Hmmm... Maybe I need to look into this. <div class=""> > - If you think you've found a bug, attach the logs as requested in the > first reply and file a bug against LightDM ( > <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm/+filebug" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm/+filebug</a>) </div>There is another 'weirdness': the Unity Greeter displays all of the possible user names, but not all of them are clickable -- some are and some aren't -- to get to a partitular user sometimes one has to click on a user one past the one wants and then click back. It would really be nice if there was a proper list with a scrollbar or something. What the Unity Greeter does is weird, kind of like a broken touch-screen hack, which is really bad for a conventual desktop with a mouse (or maybe one *has* to use the scrollwheel? *I* don't normally deal with scrollwheels, since I don't like them). I don't know if this is a bug or what. The more I think about it the more I want to toss lightdm and the Unity Greeter. They really don't work for me. Unfortunately, it is going to require some hackery with DRBL... <div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"> > > --Robert > > > On 8 July 2014 12:47, Robert Heller <<a href="mailto:heller@deepsoft.com">heller@deepsoft.com</a>> wrote: > > > OK, this question has sat, unanswered for some time now, both on the > > ubuntu-users list, the lightdm list, on askubuntu forum, and on the > > unix.stackexchange forum. I guess *no one* has done anything like this. > > Or > > is there someplace else I should post this question to? Or is there some > > other problem? I *think* I have stated the problem completely and > > carefully > > -- no one has asked questions about my question, so I *assume* it is > > understood, but *please* let me know if there is anything unclear. > > > > I have another question: How many Ubuntu users have more than one user > > account > > set up on their Ubuntu machines? Or are Ubuntu users like MS-Windows and > > MacOSX users: on any given machine there is only ever one and only one > > 'user'? > > A machine with just one user would never have any reason to logout and then > > login to another user and then logout and login to the original user, > > either > > manually or automatically. > > > > Am I the *only* one in the entire universe that has set up Ubuntu > > machine(s) > > with multiple users? *And* want to use the autologin feature? > > > > Or have I hit a bug or misfeature in lightdm that *no one* else has > > stumbled > > across? Does it make sense to file a bug report? With lightdm? Or with > > Ubuntu? > > Or both? Or is there something I am totally missing here? When I set > > things up > > way back when with CentOS 5, using the GDM Greeter, things worked great. > > The > > old machines would come up and after thirty seconds would autologin to > > their > > proper guest accounts. If one logged out of the guest account, the GDM > > Greeter > > would come backup up with 30 second timeout and log back into the guest > > account, unless you logged into another account and when you logged out of > > the > > other account, the GDM Greeter would do its 30 second timeout thing. (And > > it > > displayed the remaining seconds left until it autologined. lightdm does not > > seem to do that. It does (most of the time) auto login the *first time*, > > but > > doesn't after a logout. And there seem to be cases where it does not > > autologin > > after a reboot (generally when the user does not logout before shutting > > down > > the machine). > > > > Is there an alternitive to lightdm for Ubuntu 14.04? Is it possible or > > sensible to *replace* lightdm with a different display manager or a > > different > > greeter? *I* am feeling that lightdm's greeter is just plain broken, at > > least > > for my situation -- it might be fine for a single user machine or a multi > > user > > machine without using the autologin feature, but it appears broken in my > > context. > > > > > > At Sat, 28 Jun 2014 09:12:06 -0400 Robert Heller <<a href="mailto:heller@deepsoft.com">heller@deepsoft.com</a>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I have set up a batch of workstations at a library using DRBL. These > > > workstations are running Ubuntu 14.04. I want these workstations to > > autologin > > > to a specific user (a different one for each workstation, since the > > /home file > > > system is NFS mounted). I have a custom copy of > > /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf for > > > each workstation and I have set autologin-user-timeout=30 and > > > autologin-user=workstationuser (different for each workstation). This > > mostly > > > works, but there are some 'weirdnesses' I would like to resolve. > > > > > > 1) Doing a Shutdown from the gear menu and then restarting the > > machine does > > > not always log the user in. Sometimes it behaves like the user > > 'locked' > > > the screen and it is expecting to unlock a running session. I want a > > > shutdown to imply a full logout (it is too much to ask the library > > staff > > > people to logout and then shutdown). Always. These are guest > > accounts, so > > > there is never a session to save (screen locking is also disabled). > > > > > > 2) Doing a logout from the gear menu brings up the list of all > > possible > > > users. This is OK (sometimes someone wants or need to login as a > > > 'real' user). But if the login screen is left alone and/or after the > > > 'real' user logs out, it does not automagically re-login to the > > > autologin-user. What do I need to do to fix this? > > > > > > I am not very experienced with Ubuntu -- I am an old hand with CentOS and > > > RedHat. > > > > > > (I asked this question on the AskUbuntu forum over 9 days ago, but got no > > > responses.) > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 > > Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services > > <a href="http://www.deepsoft.com/" target="_blank">http://www.deepsoft.com/</a> -- Linux Administration Services > > <a href="mailto:heller@deepsoft.com">heller@deepsoft.com</a> -- Webhosting Services > > > > _______________________________________________ > > LightDM mailing list > > <a href="mailto:LightDM@lists.freedesktop.org">LightDM@lists.freedesktop.org</a> > > <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/lightdm" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/lightdm</a> > > > > -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services <a href="http://www.deepsoft.com/" target="_blank">http://www.deepsoft.com/</a> -- Linux Administration Services <a href="mailto:heller@deepsoft.com">heller@deepsoft.com</a> -- Webhosting Services </div></div></blockquote></div> </div>