<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Interesting! Thanks! I didn't realize their implementation was actually to spec.<div><br></div><div>-J<br><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jul 1, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Liam R E Quin wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 11:27 -0400, Joshua A.C. Newman wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Yeah, I remember that this is an old thing. But now there is a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">standard.<br></blockquote><br>It depends on what you mean by a standard...<br><br>MS IE *does* implement the Web Fonts standard as published<br>by W3C; there's no requirement for a specific font format,<br>and if there had been, it might well have been PostScript<br>Type 1 at the time, since TrueType was patent-encumbered.<br>Or it might have been the SVG font format, with no hinting,<br>and very limited metadata...<br><br>There's no problem with serving up Libre fonts with EOT,<br>and Microsoft and Agfa-Monotype have released the details<br>of the format, making the GPL implementation possible.<br><br>There is, of course, a problem in serving non-Free fonts<br>(including most shareware fonts) as plain TrueType/otf files,<br>which is that the terms of usage don't generally permit it.<br><br>We'll see changes in that area soon, I'm sure, but I think<br>in this case it's a little unfair to blame Microsoft for<br>supporting downladable fonts on the Web.  There are still<br>lots of other things where you can blame Microsoft, so don't<br>worry, just let this one go :-)<br><br>Liam<br><br><br><br><br>-- <br>Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, <a href="http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/">http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/</a><br>Pictures from old books: <a href="http://fromoldbooks.org/">http://fromoldbooks.org/</a><br>Ankh: irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org <a href="http://www.advogato.org">www.advogato.org</a><br></div></blockquote></div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Gill Sans'; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div style="text-align: right; "><a href="http://joshuanewmandesign.com/"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF5903">Joshua Newman Design</font></a></div><div style="text-align: right; ">401.225.7222</div></div></div></span> </div><br></div></div></body></html>