Hi, Right, when MSIE supports WOFF it may become practically relevant. Until then oflb ought to postpone support work, imo Regards, Dave <blockquote>On 21 Oct 2009, 2:48 PM, "Chris Lilley" <<a href="mailto:chris@w3.org">chris@w3.org</a>> wrote: On Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 2:17:41 PM, Nicolas wrote: NM> Le Mer 21 octobre 2009 14:08, Ben Weiner a écrit : >> Hi, >> Nicolas Spalinger wrote: >>> I think we also seriously need to think about WOFF support ...NM> Well, as the Mozilla article states plainly there are zero technical NM> advantages to woff as compared to raw TTF/OTF as long as your apache is NM> configured properly (with transparent compression, that any serious org has NM> been doing for years). That is incorrect. HTTP byterange can be used to get the WOFF header and decide which tables to selectively fetch. Thats a difference from gzip of the whole thing. But yes, one of the major advantages of WOFF is political; for-fee foundries are apparently willing to license WOFF fonts for web use and TTF fonts for print use. NM> Since the OFLB has no problems distributing raw TTF/OTF files and presumably NM> is competent enough to use mod_deflate, I really do not see what would be the NM> point of pretending WOFF is any better. Let the foundries promote the format NM> they forced on the internet themselves. Sigh. The false "us and them" does not produce a workable solution. And something does need to be done, since OFL forbids conversion to another format without a rename fork; which is a PITA for folks who want to reference a WOFF version of a free font. NM> (I've really loved all the spin about woff that tried to imply woff was NM> somehow necessary for web fonts, that systematically used libre fonts like NM> gentium or mgopen as examples when they can already be used directly as plain NM> font files with no degradation of user experience whatsoever). They can be, if the user agent supports downloading of raw TTF/OTF files. Some do , some don't, and some have said they never will. But have not said that about WOFF. -- Chris Lilley mailto:<a href="mailto:chris@w3.org">chris@w3.org</a> Technical Director, Interaction Domain W3C Graphics Activity Lead Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG </blockquote>