Kai-Uwe, Please note that the "compatible with Adobe RGB (1998)" statement pertains to profiles that are built exactly for the specific Adobe RGB color space. That word compatible is used when the profile is not built by Adobe. If the RGB color space is any other color space - that is not exactly the Adobe RGB color space - then the profile for that color space would NOT be compatible with Adobe RGB. A color space is defined by a specific combination of white point, viewing environment, primaries, etc.  Please refer to ISO 22028-1 which specifies how to define color spaces. Each ICC profile is built to interpret one and only one color space. So the phrase "AdobeRGB like colour spaces" should not be used.   When building the compatibleWithAdobeRGB.icc profile I recommend you look into ICC Version 4 requirements for the rendering intents as these have changed compared to ICC Version 2. Best regards, Ann McCarthy Lexmark CPD Imaging Systems Engineering "To every complex problem there is a simple solution - and inevitably it is wrong"   HL Mencken <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td> <td>Kai-Uwe Behrmann <ku.b@gmx.de> Sent by: openicc-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org 07/07/2006 06:11 AM Please respond to OpenICC Liste <td>                To:        Patrice Lagrange <lagrange@adobe.com>, Caulier Gilles <caulier.gilles@kdemail.net>         cc:        OpenICC Liste <openicc@lists.freedesktop.org>         Subject:        Re: [Openicc] Open Source compatible AdobeRGB profile</table> Adobe itself recommends to use "compatible with Adobe RGB (1998)" as naming for AdobeRGB like colour spaces. This is probably due to preparation to get this colour space adopted into standards, as Gilles Caulier from digiKam project pointed out. see: http://www.adobe.com/adobergb As "compatible with Adobe RGB (1998).icc" is a bit unconventional for a file name I would like to name the profile compatibleWithAdobeRGB.icc . This is better recognizable and not limited to EXIF. Gilles and others, would you take advantage of that profile? I like to packaged it into the Oyranos' profiles collection. Location is /usr/share/color/icc on linux. License can be free. regards Kai-Uwe Behrmann                                + development for color management                                + imaging / panoramas                                + email: ku.b@gmx.de                                + http://www.behrmann.name Am 05.07.06, 23:32 +0200 schrieb Kai-Uwe Behrmann: > Hubert, > maybe the AdobeRGB colour space can be refered as exif_second.icc ? > If it would help, I could create this profile and put into Oyranos. > A link from exif_second.icc to AdobeRGB.icc should suffice. As Adobe > stores profiles in a hierarchy I see no problems later on. > The link would be used by applications only as they select by filename. > Users see then "exif second" in the UI. > > regards > Kai-Uwe Behrmann >                                 + development for color management >                                 + imaging / panoramas >                                 + email: ku.b@gmx.de >                                 + http://www.behrmann.name > > > Am 05.07.06, 22:31 +0200 schrieb Sven Neumann: > > > Hi, > > > > On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 16:29 -0400, Hubert Figuiere wrote: > >   > > > > What about http://www.eci.org/eci/en/040_colour_standards.php ? Their > > > > profiles could serve as an alternative for AdobeRGB, couldn't they? > > > > > > How does it help if the pictures are in the AdobeRGB colorspace? > > > > Users would still have to download the AdobeRGB profile from Adobe, of > > course. But at least they would have a reasonable RGB profile to work > > with. And long-term it might make AdobeRGB less important. > > > > > > Sven > > _______________________________________________ openicc mailing list openicc@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openicc