<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Chris Murphy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lists@colorremedies.com">lists@colorremedies.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> <div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div class="im"><br><div><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px 0px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px 0px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px 0px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px 0px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px 0px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px 0px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px 0px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px 0px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br> </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span> </div> <br><div><div>On May 5, 2011, at 7:30 AM, edmund ronald wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><br></font><div><br></div><div> I simply cannot envision printing targets from a command-line app. Sorry. At this point, if this is the decision taken here, I will resign from this endeavor.</div> </blockquote><br></div></div><div>I would not consider a command line app to be sufficiently user friendly to implement an opt-out color management system. Keep in mind that Apple has implemented an opt-out color management system and has not provided *any* application for printing profile targets at all, either GUI or command line based.</div> <div><br></div><div>Part of a long list of "required" items for an opt-out color management system would be a GUI application that properly prints profile targets. This could be:</div><div><br></div><div>1. Built-into the CPD, something that could be done, even though I think it's needlessly involving too many users and clutters the CPD.</div> <div><br></div><div>2. Built-into the CPD as an application subscribable element, i.e. the code is done, but the GUI element doesn't appear by default, the application developer would need to request it appear when calling the CPD. This is nice because then an app like the GIMP can incorporate it.</div> <div><br></div><div>3. A standalone monolithic application for this purpose.</div><div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div>Chris Murphy</div></font></div><br>_______________________________________________<br> openicc mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:openicc@lists.freedesktop.org">openicc@lists.freedesktop.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openicc" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openicc</a><br></blockquote></div><br><div>1. Linux has always been driven by "under the hood enthusiasts". An advanced tab is there exactly for users who want to or need to "open the hood", just like the hood release on a car. </div> <div><br></div><div>2. This is feasible. But - has anyone actually contacted the GIMP guys?</div><div><br></div><div>3. The standalone app will end up working differently from the other apps. A standalone app is what we ended up with as a workaround for Mac OS targets, and it has bugs I've heard (scaling and placement) but its authors cannot be bothered to fix it. I am sure the Linux environment will be able to spawn its own set of bugs and if they are not in the main code path they will simply sit there and ferment. </div> <div><br></div><div>Edmund</div>