Chris, <div><br></div><div> You call this an opt-out, I call it the "advanced features workflow". If we don't make it a standard -but mostly hidden- feature, everyone will leave it out, targets will need to be printed from command line, this means complex target layouts will become hell, and the initial profiling of devices will take x*times as long. </div> <div><br></div><div> I repeat, I for one will NOT be printing targets (or anything else) from the command line. I have spent 35 years of my life with computers, I may be an idiot but I do have a Ph.D which implies a whole lot of programming and experience of the command line, and I do not repeat NOT intend to print graphics from the command line. Someone else can do that, you can for all I care.</div> <div><br></div><div>Edmund<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Chris Murphy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lists@colorremedies.com">lists@colorremedies.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> <div class="im"><br> On May 5, 2011, at 12:16 AM, Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote:<br> <br> > Am 04.05.11, 20:07 -0600 schrieb Chris Murphy:<br> >> On May 4, 2011, at 7:28 PM, edmund ronald wrote:<br> >>> Look, you may have a different workflow, and you can have a special target printing app for all I care; I would like to be able to print my targets from the GIMP.<br> >><br> >> I think the Gimp will need to implement the opt-out themselves. I remain unconvinced the the opt-out mechanism should be in the CPD for every single application. I see no reason why the Gimp would not subscribe to this opt-out for printing targets or prematched content. That would be the whole point of the opt-out system.<br> ><br> > The "passthrough" should be inherent in the PDF.<br> <br> </div>I understand, but it has to get into the PDF via some mechanism. And I don't think that UI element should be found in the CPD for every application.<br> <font color="#888888"><br> <br> Chris Murphy<br> </font><div><div></div><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br> openicc mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:openicc@lists.freedesktop.org">openicc@lists.freedesktop.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openicc" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openicc</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>