Chris, <div><br></div><div> Maybe I find devicespace to be really useful to have around as a working space.</div><div><br></div><div>- retouch in the printer space is a habit I fell into for my exhibition prints.</div><div> - When printing with Gutenprint I find I often prepare files on a Mac, use Photoshop to do color conversions, and then move the file onto Linux *just* for the final print which is thus made as if the print were a target. </div> <div>- I I always have countless small problems with targets, want to move them around on the paper or legend them so I remember what they are. These mods are best done in the GUI with the same type of app that is usually employed for layout and printing. </div> <div><br></div><div> Look, you may have a different workflow, and you can have a special target printing app for all I care; I would like to be able to print my targets from the GIMP. </div><div><br></div><div> Last, not least, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PRINT TARGETS FROM A REMOTE SYSTEM, by declaring my intentions for that print queue. At the moment, for CUPS, this *should* be possible.</div> <div><br></div><div>Edmund<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 2:52 AM, Chris Murphy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lists@colorremedies.com">lists@colorremedies.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> <div class="im">On May 4, 2011, at 5:26 PM, edmund ronald wrote:<br> <br> > I would like the target print stuff hidden behind an "Advanced" tab<br> > of a dialog.<br> <br> </div>Why in an advanced tab that appears in every application, rather than "subscribed to" by a particular target printing application? Something that the Gimp could also subscribe to (or any other application because it would be well published).<br> <div class="im"><br> <br> ><br> > It would also mean targets can always be printed from *any* installed<br> > graphics app.<br> <br> </div>Why is this remotely useful?<br> <br> What if an application always scales its print jobs? An advanced tab option for printing targets is then misleading because almost no targets printed from such an application would ever be usable. There are any number of things applications could do that would make them unhelpful as target printing apps.<br> <br> In an opt out system, I'm not finding a compelling case for the opt out being presentable to either a.) all users; b.) by default, even in an advanced area. It's superfluous clutter for 98% off users.<br> <br> I think there is a role for application developers to decide how their apps behave. I don't think a good case can be made for exposing such an opt out feature in every application. I have zero issue thoroughly documenting it for application developers and letting them get away with, wholesale, opting out even by default, even without a way for users to then re-opt back in.<br> <div><div></div><div class="h5"><br> Chris Murphy<br> _______________________________________________<br> openicc mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:openicc@lists.freedesktop.org">openicc@lists.freedesktop.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openicc" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/openicc</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>