<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>On May 14, 2011, at 7:38 PM, edmund ronald wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Chris Murphy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lists@colorremedies.com">lists@colorremedies.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> <div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div class="im"><div>On May 14, 2011, at 6:26 PM, edmund ronald wrote:</div></div><div><div class="im"><br><blockquote type="cite">Facade is a design pattern in software :)<div><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facade_pattern" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facade_pattern</a></div> <div><font color="#000000"><font color="#144FAE"><br></font></font></div></blockquote></div><div><span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">The figurative meaning is to conceal a less credible reality. An "off switch" in the print dialog conceals the fact the content may have been converted elsewhere, and therefore the printed test chart is in fact invalid, but is presented by the UI as implicitly valid.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div> <div><br></div><div></div></div></div></blockquote>Well, maybe present-day color what we need deserves to be called a Potemkin Village rather than a Facade :) . Upstream or downstream ugliness is something we all live with, as everything seems to have layer after layer of calibration these days, some of it in firmware, but as long as it is invariant between calls to the print or display system we don't really care do we? </div></div></blockquote><br></div><div>That's the point, it is not invariant. It depends on the behavior of the application. Just because we have problems with UI today doesn't mean we should BY DESIGN accept a UI perversion going forward. Usually such problems are well intentioned in advance and are found to be problematic after the fact. But when they make no sense from the outset, it's a user hostile position to subject all users to garbage UI that either makes no sense, or flat out lies about what the option can do.</div><div><br></div><div>The complete disregard to what is common and useful is necessarily going to cause the creation of a really user unfriendly color management system. It will be one that will requires a listserve and documentation merely to inform users what apps can reliably print profile targets and which ones can't, a whole new mental matrix of how things actually work, not how they appear to work in UI. A new color consultancy will emerge because users won't be able to figure stuff out on their own without a lot of testing.</div><div><br></div><div>WOW, just what we have today.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Chris Murphy</div></body></html>