<html><head><style type="text/css"></style></head><body><div style="font-family:Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div>Hi, let me jump into this discussion :P well i might not be the one who really understands apt+dpkg internals, but i use Debian for about 3 years. First i don't agree with the mysql+wiki idea, no this is not a regression, what kind of end user want a wiki? why postgres don't ask such password thing(ok i'll not start a db flame here), also if he want's he will "soon or later" need to learn how to edit some files by hand. </div><div style="font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> I think that user interaction is something backends might need. Well i'm not Richard but i have some ideas that i think can benefit both. in all these years using Debian the package system is what most impress me, you can hit CTRL+C any time and things never get broken, so i imagine there is no problem to schedule "packages pending configuration". All packages that need an interaction such as "which is the workgroup for samba", could go to this pending configuration, imo this is completely possible as i had done it with aptitude several times and things finished fine. Also for the user interacion i think packagekit could provide a simple and yet powerful api for dialogs, providing, yes|No, Yes|No|Default, OK|Cancel with user input, that could be used for debconf, on those packages pending configuration. Well this is just an idea that could start solving problens, i'm trying to learn apt api, but the docs don't have examples of usage so it's proving to be harder than i thought.. i hope you find this usefull, please comments. Regars, Daniel. <div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><hr size="1">De: Richard Hughes <hughsient@gmail.com> Para: PackageKit users and developers list <packagekit@lists.freedesktop.org> Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 26 de Novembro de 2008 12:05:13 Assunto: Re: [packagekit] PackageKit & Debian, Was: External dependencies, DeviceKit-power and GNOME Power Manager On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 14:40 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > I might sound like an asshole here, but I'm not going to be bullied into > > putting functionality in which blocks a transaction. > > But on the other side, we are not going to embrace a tool that does not > have this functionality. Sure, I'm not forcing you to. If you're just interested in replacing synaptic then PackageKit probably isn't the framework you need. If you're looking at the end users, and what they are trying to do with their computer, it probably is the framework you should be using. > So this really means that we will have to develop and maintain a fork if > we want to integrate PackageKit in our desktop. You're free to fork PackageKit and do whatever you want. I just think you might have misunderestimated the amount of work this would require. Richard. _______________________________________________ PackageKit mailing list <a ymailto="mailto:PackageKit@lists.freedesktop.org" href="mailto:PackageKit@lists.freedesktop.org">PackageKit@lists.freedesktop.org</a> <a href="http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/packagekit" target="_blank">http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/packagekit</a> </div></div></div> <hr size=1>Veja quais são os assuntos do momento no Yahoo! + Buscados: <a href="http://br.rd.yahoo.com/mail/taglines/mail/*http://br.maisbuscados.yahoo.com/">Top 10</a> - <a href="http://br.rd.yahoo.com/mail/taglines/mail/*http://br.maisbuscados.yahoo.com/celebridades/">Celebridades</a> - <a href="http://br.rd.yahoo.com/mail/taglines/mail/*http://br.maisbuscados.yahoo.com/m%C3%BAsica/">Música</a> - <a href="http://br.rd.yahoo.com/mail/taglines/mail/*http://br.maisbuscados.yahoo.com/esportes/">Esportes</a></body></html>