<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>On Aug 7, 2008, at 10:28 PM, Hal V. Engel wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="font-family: 'Sans Serif'; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; text-indent: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; ">Isn't the use of ICC Profiles in PDFs an integral part of the PDF specification? </div><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; text-indent: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; "></p><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; text-indent: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; "><br></div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Yes. In fact, the new ISO 32000 makes the use of ICC profiles mandatory for correct rendering by a "conforming viewer".<br></div><div><br></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="font-family: 'Sans Serif'; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; text-indent: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; ">If I have an image with a BetaRGB profile embedded into the image (this has a wide gamut and unless color managed will not be displayed correctly) as part of a PDF how does poppler transform that image to the monitor color space? </div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>It uses the alternate colorspace - which I'll assume to be DeviceRGB in this case.<br></div><div><br></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="font-family: 'Sans Serif'; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; "><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; text-indent: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; "></p><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; text-indent: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; ">I notice in GfxState that there is logic for deciding if an object uses an ICC based color space (IE. virtual GfxColorSpaceMode getMode() { return csICCBased; }). If there is no color management support what is being done with this information?</div></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Informational and also to know if it has to fall back to the alternate.</div><div><br></div><br></div><div>Leonard</div><div><br></div></body></html>