[pulseaudio-discuss] Windows

[Matt D]

Hmm. Looks different than what I tried. I will try it later if I can,
otherwise Wednsesday. Thanks Alex

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>   1. Re: SegFault when Switching from bluetooth sink (Colin Guthrie)
>   2. Re: arecord CPU consumption high with     pulseaudio (Jim Duda)
>   3. Re: arecord CPU consumption high with     pulseaudio (Jim Duda)
>   4. Re: 0.9.8 seg fault (Jim Duda)
>   5. Re: 0.9.8 seg fault (Jim Duda)
>   6. [ANNOUNCE] PulseAudio 0.9.10 (Lennart Poettering)
>   7. Windows (Matt D)
>   8. Re: Windows (Alex Malinovich)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:29:21 +0100
> From: Colin Guthrie <gmane at colin.guthr.ie>
> Subject: Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] SegFault when Switching from
>        bluetooth sink
> To: pulseaudio-discuss at mail.0pointer.de
> Message-ID: <fsnq21$3vq$1 at ger.gmane.org>
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> Donald Reader wrote:
> > as posted earlier I got the sink for the bluetooth created
> > like usual then started the backtrace per the instructions
> > on the web page you gave me and have attached it.
> >
> > Any insight would be greatly appreciated
>
> Unfrotunately this backtrace is not overly useful as you appear to have
> forgotten the useful bit.... the actual backtrace! After the segv, you
> need to type "bt full" or some variant thereof to actually list the
> backtrace.
>
> Also is is really useful if you can installed the debug info files as
> indicated by the output:
> "Missing separate debuginfos, use: debuginfo-install pulseaudio.i386"
>
> In theory it is possible to reconstruct the necessary output from a
> backtrace and the symbols after the event if the package/platform is
> known and the symbols are available but it's generally easier to do it
> at source.
>
> HTHs
>
> Col
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:50:38 -0400
> From: Jim Duda <jim at duda.tzo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] arecord CPU consumption high with
>        pulseaudio
> To: General PulseAudio Discussion
>        <pulseaudio-discuss at mail.0pointer.de>
> Message-ID: <47EF9AAE.2080207 at duda.tzo.com>
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> Well, I do notice that parec doesn't have the same issue, so maybe the
> issue is that arecord isn't all that good with pulse, hence, the need
> for parec.
>
> I do retain the claim that later versions of pulse have higher cpu
> consumption when using a combined_sink.
>
> Jim
>
> Jim Duda wrote:
> > I've noticed that when I use arecord without pulse, raw alsa, the cpu
> > consumption of arecord is very low, almost zero.
> >
> > However, when using arecord with pulseaudio, I find cpu consumption very
> > high.
> >
> > With 0.9.6, I found that arecord ran in the high 90's, and using ^C to
> > kill the process wasn't useful.  I had to kill -9.
> >
> > With >= 0.9.9, I found that arecord ran around 75%, and using ^C would
> > work consistently.
> >
> > I have a 2.8 Ghz P4 with hyperthreading.
> >
> > Is it expected that arecord usage be so high with pulseaudio?
> >
> > I also found another curious note.  With 0.9.6, a combined_sink results
> > in pulseaudion consuming ~ 10-20% cpu while playing a wav file.  With >=
> > 0.9.10, I have found that using a combined_sink now consumes 50%.  I
> > don't find this unreasonable giving what combined sink is doing, just
> > thought I'd pass on my findings.
> >
> > Example:
> > load-module module-combine sink_name=misterhouse
> > resample_method="src-sinc-best-quality"
> > master=alsa_output.pci_1274_5880_alsa_playback_0
> > slaves=alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_alsa_playback_0
> >
> > Just attempting to route audio out 2 different cards.
> >
> > Jim
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:50:38 -0400
> From: Jim Duda <jim at duda.tzo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] arecord CPU consumption high with
>        pulseaudio
> To: pulseaudio-discuss at mail.0pointer.de
> Message-ID: <47EF9AAE.2080207 at duda.tzo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Well, I do notice that parec doesn't have the same issue, so maybe the
> issue is that arecord isn't all that good with pulse, hence, the need
> for parec.
>
> I do retain the claim that later versions of pulse have higher cpu
> consumption when using a combined_sink.
>
> Jim
>
> Jim Duda wrote:
> > I've noticed that when I use arecord without pulse, raw alsa, the cpu
> > consumption of arecord is very low, almost zero.
> >
> > However, when using arecord with pulseaudio, I find cpu consumption very
> > high.
> >
> > With 0.9.6, I found that arecord ran in the high 90's, and using ^C to
> > kill the process wasn't useful.  I had to kill -9.
> >
> > With >= 0.9.9, I found that arecord ran around 75%, and using ^C would
> > work consistently.
> >
> > I have a 2.8 Ghz P4 with hyperthreading.
> >
> > Is it expected that arecord usage be so high with pulseaudio?
> >
> > I also found another curious note.  With 0.9.6, a combined_sink results
> > in pulseaudion consuming ~ 10-20% cpu while playing a wav file.  With >=
> > 0.9.10, I have found that using a combined_sink now consumes 50%.  I
> > don't find this unreasonable giving what combined sink is doing, just
> > thought I'd pass on my findings.
> >
> > Example:
> > load-module module-combine sink_name=misterhouse
> > resample_method="src-sinc-best-quality"
> > master=alsa_output.pci_1274_5880_alsa_playback_0
> > slaves=alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_alsa_playback_0
> >
> > Just attempting to route audio out 2 different cards.
> >
> > Jim
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:51:13 -0400
> From: Jim Duda <jim at duda.tzo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] 0.9.8 seg fault
> To: pulseaudio-discuss at mail.0pointer.de
> Message-ID: <47EF9AD1.3000104 at duda.tzo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Lennart,
>
> Although I haven't been able to get you a trace back, I can inform that
> the crash appears to be related with using a combined_sink.  I was using
> a combined_sink to drive 2 sound cards.  Once I removed that feature,
> pulseaudio appears to run without segfault.
>
> I didn't have this issue with stock fc7 0.9.6 pulseaudio.
>
> Jim
>
> Jim Duda wrote:
> > I'm now running with 0.9.10, I'll let you know how that goes.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > Jim Duda wrote:
> >> Lennart,
> >>
> >> I followed the instructions from the fedora StackTraces wiki for
> >> installing all the debugging library information.
> >>
> >> These libraries were installed:
> >>    Installing: glibc-debuginfo-common
> >>    Installing: glibc-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: bash-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: pulseaudio-module-lirc
> >>    Installing: pulseaudio-module-bluetooth
> >>    Installing: PolicyKit-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: dbus-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: glib2-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: alsa-lib-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: libsamplerate-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: pulseaudio-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: libsndfile-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: tcp_wrappers-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: liboil-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: libtool-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: libcap-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: hal-debuginfo
> >>
> >> Running gdb the first time resulted in another failure, with a request
> >> to install these 3 packages, which I did.
> >>
> >>    Installing: expat-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: libsepol-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: libselinux-debuginfo
> >>
> >> This is what happens now:
> >>
> >> linux# gdb /usr/bin/pulseaudio
> >> GNU gdb Red Hat Linux (6.6-45.fc8rh)
> >> Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> >> GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and
> you are
> >> welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain
> >> conditions.
> >> Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
> >> There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for
> details.
> >> This GDB was configured as "i386-redhat-linux-gnu"...
> >> Using host libthread_db library "/lib/libthread_db.so.1".
> >> (gdb) run --system --log-target=syslog
> >> Starting program: /usr/bin/pulseaudio --system --log-target=syslog
> >> [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
> >> [New process 15257]
> >> Executing new program: /usr/bin/pulseaudio
> >> warning: Cannot initialize thread debugging library: generic error
> >> warning: Cannot initialize thread debugging library: generic error
> >> [New process 15257]
> >> [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
> >> Segmentation fault
> >>
> >> I am running my own compiled kernel, could that be an issue?
> >>
> >> I've read the fedora wiki a couple of times and tried to google for a
> >> solution, but I haven't found one.  Do you understand what is going on?
> >>
> >> Jim
> >>
> >>
> >> Lennart Poettering wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 28.03.08 20:33, Jim Duda (jim at duda.tzo.com) wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> After upgrading from 0.9.8 from 0.9.6, pulse is segfaulting when
> playing
> >>>> simple wav files.
> >>>>
> >>>> Example:
> >>>>
> >>>> Mar 28 20:30:18 linux kernel: pulseaudio[2847]: segfault at b4dd79f0
> eip
> >>>> b4dd79f0 esp bfe949fc error 4
> >>>>
> >>>> I have to manually restart.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm using --system mode.
> >>> Please provide a back trace.
> >>>
> >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace
> >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces
> >>>
> >>> Lennart
> >>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:51:13 -0400
> From: Jim Duda <jim at duda.tzo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] 0.9.8 seg fault
> To: General PulseAudio Discussion
>        <pulseaudio-discuss at mail.0pointer.de>
> Message-ID: <47EF9AD1.3000104 at duda.tzo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Lennart,
>
> Although I haven't been able to get you a trace back, I can inform that
> the crash appears to be related with using a combined_sink.  I was using
> a combined_sink to drive 2 sound cards.  Once I removed that feature,
> pulseaudio appears to run without segfault.
>
> I didn't have this issue with stock fc7 0.9.6 pulseaudio.
>
> Jim
>
> Jim Duda wrote:
> > I'm now running with 0.9.10, I'll let you know how that goes.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > Jim Duda wrote:
> >> Lennart,
> >>
> >> I followed the instructions from the fedora StackTraces wiki for
> >> installing all the debugging library information.
> >>
> >> These libraries were installed:
> >>    Installing: glibc-debuginfo-common
> >>    Installing: glibc-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: bash-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: pulseaudio-module-lirc
> >>    Installing: pulseaudio-module-bluetooth
> >>    Installing: PolicyKit-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: dbus-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: glib2-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: alsa-lib-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: libsamplerate-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: pulseaudio-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: libsndfile-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: tcp_wrappers-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: liboil-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: libtool-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: libcap-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: hal-debuginfo
> >>
> >> Running gdb the first time resulted in another failure, with a request
> >> to install these 3 packages, which I did.
> >>
> >>    Installing: expat-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: libsepol-debuginfo
> >>    Installing: libselinux-debuginfo
> >>
> >> This is what happens now:
> >>
> >> linux# gdb /usr/bin/pulseaudio
> >> GNU gdb Red Hat Linux (6.6-45.fc8rh)
> >> Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> >> GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and
> you are
> >> welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain
> >> conditions.
> >> Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
> >> There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for
> details.
> >> This GDB was configured as "i386-redhat-linux-gnu"...
> >> Using host libthread_db library "/lib/libthread_db.so.1".
> >> (gdb) run --system --log-target=syslog
> >> Starting program: /usr/bin/pulseaudio --system --log-target=syslog
> >> [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
> >> [New process 15257]
> >> Executing new program: /usr/bin/pulseaudio
> >> warning: Cannot initialize thread debugging library: generic error
> >> warning: Cannot initialize thread debugging library: generic error
> >> [New process 15257]
> >> [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
> >> Segmentation fault
> >>
> >> I am running my own compiled kernel, could that be an issue?
> >>
> >> I've read the fedora wiki a couple of times and tried to google for a
> >> solution, but I haven't found one.  Do you understand what is going on?
> >>
> >> Jim
> >>
> >>
> >> Lennart Poettering wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 28.03.08 20:33, Jim Duda (jim at duda.tzo.com) wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> After upgrading from 0.9.8 from 0.9.6, pulse is segfaulting when
> playing
> >>>> simple wav files.
> >>>>
> >>>> Example:
> >>>>
> >>>> Mar 28 20:30:18 linux kernel: pulseaudio[2847]: segfault at b4dd79f0
> eip
> >>>> b4dd79f0 esp bfe949fc error 4
> >>>>
> >>>> I have to manually restart.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm using --system mode.
> >>> Please provide a back trace.
> >>>
> >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace
> >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces
> >>>
> >>> Lennart
> >>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:58:02 +0200
> From: Lennart Poettering <lennart at poettering.net>
> Subject: [pulseaudio-discuss] [ANNOUNCE] PulseAudio 0.9.10
> To: PulseAudio Discussion List <pulseaudio-discuss at mail.0pointer.de>
> Message-ID: <20080330165802.GA23825 at tango.0pointer.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hey!
>
> Finally PulseAudio 0.9.10 is released:
>
> Download:
>
>  http://0pointer.de/lennart/projects/pulseaudio/pulseaudio-0.9.10.tar.gz
>
> Changes:
>
>  http://pulseaudio.org/milestone/0.9.10
>
> This is mostly a bug fix release (but an important one). The next
> release will bringt all the glitch-free awesomeness that is being
> prepared in the glitch-free branch in SVN right now.
>
> Lennart
>
> --
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:34:47 -0400
> From: "Matt D" <mattd7591 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pulseaudio-discuss] Windows
> To: pulseaudio-discuss at mail.0pointer.de
> Message-ID:
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>
> I use VNC tunneled under ssh to use my linux box from an WinXP laptop. For
> remote sound, I am trying to use Pulse Audio. I got it to work on my linux
> box, and from my linux box to laptop on an Ubuntu livecd, but I cannot get
> it to work from Linux to XP. I have been searching and trying for the past
> two days to get it to work. Anyone have any ideas?
>
> --
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:30:36 -0700
> From: Alex Malinovich <demonbane at the-love-shack.net>
> Subject: Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Windows
> To: pulseaudio-discuss at mail.0pointer.de
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>
> On Sun, 2008-03-30 at 18:34 -0400, Matt D wrote:
> > I use VNC tunneled under ssh to use my linux box from an WinXP laptop.
> > For remote sound, I am trying to use Pulse Audio. I got it to work on
> > my linux box, and from my linux box to laptop on an Ubuntu livecd, but
> > I cannot get it to work from Linux to XP. I have been searching and
> > trying for the past two days to get it to work. Anyone have any ideas?
>
> Well, it definitely CAN be done. :) When I boot into XP I use a remote X
> connection to my other PC to get a proper desktop to work with, and I
> use pulse to get my sound across. Doing it through an SSH tunnel is
> going to complicate it slightly but it should still be very doable.
>
> Here's a brief writeup I did a few months ago on connecting pulse on an
> XP box to a Linux box running ESD.
>
>
> http://www.the-love-shack.net/2007/08/23/forwarding-esd-played-sounds-to-a-remote-machine/
>
> The only difference with connecting pulse-to-pulse instead of
> pulse-to-esd is that instead of using ESPEAKER you'll want to use
> PULSE_SERVER. Hope that helps.
>
> --
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