Hmm. Looks different than what I tried. I will try it later if I can, otherwise Wednsesday. Thanks Alex <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 7:36 PM, <<a href="mailto:pulseaudio-discuss-request@mail.0pointer.de">pulseaudio-discuss-request@mail.0pointer.de</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Send pulseaudio-discuss mailing list submissions to        <a href="mailto:pulseaudio-discuss@mail.0pointer.de">pulseaudio-discuss@mail.0pointer.de</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit        <a href="https://tango.0pointer.de/mailman/listinfo/pulseaudio-discuss" target="_blank">https://tango.0pointer.de/mailman/listinfo/pulseaudio-discuss</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to        <a href="mailto:pulseaudio-discuss-request@mail.0pointer.de">pulseaudio-discuss-request@mail.0pointer.de</a> You can reach the person managing the list at        <a href="mailto:pulseaudio-discuss-owner@mail.0pointer.de">pulseaudio-discuss-owner@mail.0pointer.de</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of pulseaudio-discuss digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re: SegFault when Switching from bluetooth sink (Colin Guthrie)   2. Re: arecord CPU consumption high with     pulseaudio (Jim Duda)   3. Re: arecord CPU consumption high with     pulseaudio (Jim Duda)   4. Re: 0.9.8 seg fault (Jim Duda)   5. Re: 0.9.8 seg fault (Jim Duda)   6. [ANNOUNCE] PulseAudio 0.9.10 (Lennart Poettering)   7. Windows (Matt D)   8. Re: Windows (Alex Malinovich) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:29:21 +0100 From: Colin Guthrie <<a href="mailto:gmane@colin.guthr.ie">gmane@colin.guthr.ie</a>> Subject: Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] SegFault when Switching from        bluetooth sink To: <a href="mailto:pulseaudio-discuss@mail.0pointer.de">pulseaudio-discuss@mail.0pointer.de</a> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:fsnq21$3vq$1@ger.gmane.org">fsnq21$3vq$1@ger.gmane.org</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Donald Reader wrote: > as posted earlier I got the sink for the bluetooth created > like usual then started the backtrace per the instructions > on the web page you gave me and have attached it. > > Any insight would be greatly appreciated Unfrotunately this backtrace is not overly useful as you appear to have forgotten the useful bit.... the actual backtrace! After the segv, you need to type "bt full" or some variant thereof to actually list the backtrace. Also is is really useful if you can installed the debug info files as indicated by the output: "Missing separate debuginfos, use: debuginfo-install pulseaudio.i386" In theory it is possible to reconstruct the necessary output from a backtrace and the symbols after the event if the package/platform is known and the symbols are available but it's generally easier to do it at source. HTHs Col ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:50:38 -0400 From: Jim Duda <<a href="mailto:jim@duda.tzo.com">jim@duda.tzo.com</a>> Subject: Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] arecord CPU consumption high with        pulseaudio To: General PulseAudio Discussion        <<a href="mailto:pulseaudio-discuss@mail.0pointer.de">pulseaudio-discuss@mail.0pointer.de</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:47EF9AAE.2080207@duda.tzo.com">47EF9AAE.2080207@duda.tzo.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Well, I do notice that parec doesn't have the same issue, so maybe the issue is that arecord isn't all that good with pulse, hence, the need for parec. I do retain the claim that later versions of pulse have higher cpu consumption when using a combined_sink. Jim Jim Duda wrote: > I've noticed that when I use arecord without pulse, raw alsa, the cpu > consumption of arecord is very low, almost zero. > > However, when using arecord with pulseaudio, I find cpu consumption very > high. > > With 0.9.6, I found that arecord ran in the high 90's, and using ^C to > kill the process wasn't useful.  I had to kill -9. > > With >= 0.9.9, I found that arecord ran around 75%, and using ^C would > work consistently. > > I have a 2.8 Ghz P4 with hyperthreading. > > Is it expected that arecord usage be so high with pulseaudio? > > I also found another curious note.  With 0.9.6, a combined_sink results > in pulseaudion consuming ~ 10-20% cpu while playing a wav file.  With >= > 0.9.10, I have found that using a combined_sink now consumes 50%.  I > don't find this unreasonable giving what combined sink is doing, just > thought I'd pass on my findings. > > Example: > load-module module-combine sink_name=misterhouse > resample_method="src-sinc-best-quality" > master=alsa_output.pci_1274_5880_alsa_playback_0 > slaves=alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_alsa_playback_0 > > Just attempting to route audio out 2 different cards. > > Jim ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:50:38 -0400 From: Jim Duda <<a href="mailto:jim@duda.tzo.com">jim@duda.tzo.com</a>> Subject: Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] arecord CPU consumption high with        pulseaudio To: <a href="mailto:pulseaudio-discuss@mail.0pointer.de">pulseaudio-discuss@mail.0pointer.de</a> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:47EF9AAE.2080207@duda.tzo.com">47EF9AAE.2080207@duda.tzo.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Well, I do notice that parec doesn't have the same issue, so maybe the issue is that arecord isn't all that good with pulse, hence, the need for parec. I do retain the claim that later versions of pulse have higher cpu consumption when using a combined_sink. Jim Jim Duda wrote: > I've noticed that when I use arecord without pulse, raw alsa, the cpu > consumption of arecord is very low, almost zero. > > However, when using arecord with pulseaudio, I find cpu consumption very > high. > > With 0.9.6, I found that arecord ran in the high 90's, and using ^C to > kill the process wasn't useful.  I had to kill -9. > > With >= 0.9.9, I found that arecord ran around 75%, and using ^C would > work consistently. > > I have a 2.8 Ghz P4 with hyperthreading. > > Is it expected that arecord usage be so high with pulseaudio? > > I also found another curious note.  With 0.9.6, a combined_sink results > in pulseaudion consuming ~ 10-20% cpu while playing a wav file.  With >= > 0.9.10, I have found that using a combined_sink now consumes 50%.  I > don't find this unreasonable giving what combined sink is doing, just > thought I'd pass on my findings. > > Example: > load-module module-combine sink_name=misterhouse > resample_method="src-sinc-best-quality" > master=alsa_output.pci_1274_5880_alsa_playback_0 > slaves=alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_alsa_playback_0 > > Just attempting to route audio out 2 different cards. > > Jim ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:51:13 -0400 From: Jim Duda <<a href="mailto:jim@duda.tzo.com">jim@duda.tzo.com</a>> Subject: Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] 0.9.8 seg fault To: <a href="mailto:pulseaudio-discuss@mail.0pointer.de">pulseaudio-discuss@mail.0pointer.de</a> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:47EF9AD1.3000104@duda.tzo.com">47EF9AD1.3000104@duda.tzo.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Lennart, Although I haven't been able to get you a trace back, I can inform that the crash appears to be related with using a combined_sink.  I was using a combined_sink to drive 2 sound cards.  Once I removed that feature, pulseaudio appears to run without segfault. I didn't have this issue with stock fc7 0.9.6 pulseaudio. Jim Jim Duda wrote: > I'm now running with 0.9.10, I'll let you know how that goes. > > Jim > > Jim Duda wrote: >> Lennart, >> >> I followed the instructions from the fedora StackTraces wiki for >> installing all the debugging library information. >> >> These libraries were installed: >>    Installing: glibc-debuginfo-common >>    Installing: glibc-debuginfo >>    Installing: bash-debuginfo >>    Installing: pulseaudio-module-lirc >>    Installing: pulseaudio-module-bluetooth >>    Installing: PolicyKit-debuginfo >>    Installing: dbus-debuginfo >>    Installing: glib2-debuginfo >>    Installing: alsa-lib-debuginfo >>    Installing: libsamplerate-debuginfo >>    Installing: pulseaudio-debuginfo >>    Installing: libsndfile-debuginfo >>    Installing: tcp_wrappers-debuginfo >>    Installing: liboil-debuginfo >>    Installing: libtool-debuginfo >>    Installing: libcap-debuginfo >>    Installing: hal-debuginfo >> >> Running gdb the first time resulted in another failure, with a request >> to install these 3 packages, which I did. >> >>    Installing: expat-debuginfo >>    Installing: libsepol-debuginfo >>    Installing: libselinux-debuginfo >> >> This is what happens now: >> >> linux# gdb /usr/bin/pulseaudio >> GNU gdb Red Hat Linux (6.6-45.fc8rh) >> Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc. >> GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are >> welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain >> conditions. >> Type "show copying" to see the conditions. >> There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details. >> This GDB was configured as "i386-redhat-linux-gnu"... >> Using host libthread_db library "/lib/libthread_db.so.1". >> (gdb) run --system --log-target=syslog >> Starting program: /usr/bin/pulseaudio --system --log-target=syslog >> [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] >> [New process 15257] >> Executing new program: /usr/bin/pulseaudio >> warning: Cannot initialize thread debugging library: generic error >> warning: Cannot initialize thread debugging library: generic error >> [New process 15257] >> [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] >> Segmentation fault >> >> I am running my own compiled kernel, could that be an issue? >> >> I've read the fedora wiki a couple of times and tried to google for a >> solution, but I haven't found one.  Do you understand what is going on? >> >> Jim >> >> >> Lennart Poettering wrote: >>> On Fri, 28.03.08 20:33, Jim Duda (<a href="mailto:jim@duda.tzo.com">jim@duda.tzo.com</a>) wrote: >>> >>>> After upgrading from 0.9.8 from 0.9.6, pulse is segfaulting when playing >>>> simple wav files. >>>> >>>> Example: >>>> >>>> Mar 28 20:30:18 linux kernel: pulseaudio[2847]: segfault at b4dd79f0 eip >>>> b4dd79f0 esp bfe949fc error 4 >>>> >>>> I have to manually restart. >>>> >>>> I'm using --system mode. >>> Please provide a back trace. >>> >>> <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace</a> >>> <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces" target="_blank">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces</a> >>> >>> Lennart >>> ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:51:13 -0400 From: Jim Duda <<a href="mailto:jim@duda.tzo.com">jim@duda.tzo.com</a>> Subject: Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] 0.9.8 seg fault To: General PulseAudio Discussion        <<a href="mailto:pulseaudio-discuss@mail.0pointer.de">pulseaudio-discuss@mail.0pointer.de</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:47EF9AD1.3000104@duda.tzo.com">47EF9AD1.3000104@duda.tzo.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Lennart, Although I haven't been able to get you a trace back, I can inform that the crash appears to be related with using a combined_sink.  I was using a combined_sink to drive 2 sound cards.  Once I removed that feature, pulseaudio appears to run without segfault. I didn't have this issue with stock fc7 0.9.6 pulseaudio. Jim Jim Duda wrote: > I'm now running with 0.9.10, I'll let you know how that goes. > > Jim > > Jim Duda wrote: >> Lennart, >> >> I followed the instructions from the fedora StackTraces wiki for >> installing all the debugging library information. >> >> These libraries were installed: >>    Installing: glibc-debuginfo-common >>    Installing: glibc-debuginfo >>    Installing: bash-debuginfo >>    Installing: pulseaudio-module-lirc >>    Installing: pulseaudio-module-bluetooth >>    Installing: PolicyKit-debuginfo >>    Installing: dbus-debuginfo >>    Installing: glib2-debuginfo >>    Installing: alsa-lib-debuginfo >>    Installing: libsamplerate-debuginfo >>    Installing: pulseaudio-debuginfo >>    Installing: libsndfile-debuginfo >>    Installing: tcp_wrappers-debuginfo >>    Installing: liboil-debuginfo >>    Installing: libtool-debuginfo >>    Installing: libcap-debuginfo >>    Installing: hal-debuginfo >> >> Running gdb the first time resulted in another failure, with a request >> to install these 3 packages, which I did. >> >>    Installing: expat-debuginfo >>    Installing: libsepol-debuginfo >>    Installing: libselinux-debuginfo >> >> This is what happens now: >> >> linux# gdb /usr/bin/pulseaudio >> GNU gdb Red Hat Linux (6.6-45.fc8rh) >> Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc. >> GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are >> welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain >> conditions. >> Type "show copying" to see the conditions. >> There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details. >> This GDB was configured as "i386-redhat-linux-gnu"... >> Using host libthread_db library "/lib/libthread_db.so.1". >> (gdb) run --system --log-target=syslog >> Starting program: /usr/bin/pulseaudio --system --log-target=syslog >> [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] >> [New process 15257] >> Executing new program: /usr/bin/pulseaudio >> warning: Cannot initialize thread debugging library: generic error >> warning: Cannot initialize thread debugging library: generic error >> [New process 15257] >> [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] >> Segmentation fault >> >> I am running my own compiled kernel, could that be an issue? >> >> I've read the fedora wiki a couple of times and tried to google for a >> solution, but I haven't found one.  Do you understand what is going on? >> >> Jim >> >> >> Lennart Poettering wrote: >>> On Fri, 28.03.08 20:33, Jim Duda (<a href="mailto:jim@duda.tzo.com">jim@duda.tzo.com</a>) wrote: >>> >>>> After upgrading from 0.9.8 from 0.9.6, pulse is segfaulting when playing >>>> simple wav files. >>>> >>>> Example: >>>> >>>> Mar 28 20:30:18 linux kernel: pulseaudio[2847]: segfault at b4dd79f0 eip >>>> b4dd79f0 esp bfe949fc error 4 >>>> >>>> I have to manually restart. >>>> >>>> I'm using --system mode. >>> Please provide a back trace. >>> >>> <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace</a> >>> <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces" target="_blank">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces</a> >>> >>> Lennart >>> ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:58:02 +0200 From: Lennart Poettering <<a href="mailto:lennart@poettering.net">lennart@poettering.net</a>> Subject: [pulseaudio-discuss] [ANNOUNCE] PulseAudio 0.9.10 To: PulseAudio Discussion List <<a href="mailto:pulseaudio-discuss@mail.0pointer.de">pulseaudio-discuss@mail.0pointer.de</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:20080330165802.GA23825@tango.0pointer.de">20080330165802.GA23825@tango.0pointer.de</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey! Finally PulseAudio 0.9.10 is released: Download:  <a href="http://0pointer.de/lennart/projects/pulseaudio/pulseaudio-0.9.10.tar.gz" target="_blank">http://0pointer.de/lennart/projects/pulseaudio/pulseaudio-0.9.10.tar.gz</a> Changes:  <a href="http://pulseaudio.org/milestone/0.9.10" target="_blank">http://pulseaudio.org/milestone/0.9.10</a> This is mostly a bug fix release (but an important one). The next release will bringt all the glitch-free awesomeness that is being prepared in the glitch-free branch in SVN right now. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering                        Red Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net         ICQ# 11060553 <a href="http://0pointer.net/lennart/" target="_blank">http://0pointer.net/lennart/</a>           GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:34:47 -0400 From: "Matt D" <<a href="mailto:mattd7591@gmail.com">mattd7591@gmail.com</a>> Subject: [pulseaudio-discuss] Windows To: <a href="mailto:pulseaudio-discuss@mail.0pointer.de">pulseaudio-discuss@mail.0pointer.de</a> Message-ID:        <<a href="mailto:c0ea50b70803301534m4b51963ak9b4a255a113f1be5@mail.gmail.com">c0ea50b70803301534m4b51963ak9b4a255a113f1be5@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I use VNC tunneled under ssh to use my linux box from an WinXP laptop. For remote sound, I am trying to use Pulse Audio. I got it to work on my linux box, and from my linux box to laptop on an Ubuntu livecd, but I cannot get it to work from Linux to XP. I have been searching and trying for the past two days to get it to work. Anyone have any ideas? -- Matt D. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I got it to work on > my linux box, and from my linux box to laptop on an Ubuntu livecd, but > I cannot get it to work from Linux to XP. I have been searching and > trying for the past two days to get it to work. Anyone have any ideas? Well, it definitely CAN be done. :) When I boot into XP I use a remote X connection to my other PC to get a proper desktop to work with, and I use pulse to get my sound across. Doing it through an SSH tunnel is going to complicate it slightly but it should still be very doable. Here's a brief writeup I did a few months ago on connecting pulse on an XP box to a Linux box running ESD. <a href="http://www.the-love-shack.net/2007/08/23/forwarding-esd-played-sounds-to-a-remote-machine/" target="_blank">http://www.the-love-shack.net/2007/08/23/forwarding-esd-played-sounds-to-a-remote-machine/</a> The only difference with connecting pulse-to-pulse instead of pulse-to-esd is that instead of using ESPEAKER you'll want to use PULSE_SERVER. 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