<div class="gmail_quote">2009/10/19 Stephan Seitz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stse%2Bpulse@fsing.rootsland.net">stse+pulse@fsing.rootsland.net</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="im">On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 03:10:28PM +0200, <a href="mailto:remrot@gmail.com" target="_blank">remrot@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Seriously, I think that PA is the most important change to the Linux sound system that happened within the last few years. Although <br> </blockquote> <br></div> Hm, why? </blockquote><div><br>Because I totally agree with what Colin wrote about PA here : <br><a href="http://colin.guthr.ie/2009/08/sound-on-linux-anti-fud-calm-certainty-and-confidence/">http://colin.guthr.ie/2009/08/sound-on-linux-anti-fud-calm-certainty-and-confidence/</a><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">For the normal desktop user as well? <br></blockquote><div><br>I don't know anything about the "normal desktop user". I don't even know if he exists. That's why I wrote "I think", it is simply my opinion, and obviously it differs from yours! So what? <br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <br> I don’t say that PA has no advantages, I’m only saying that most desktop users will not need PA. Those who need it can use it, but there is no need to force anyone to use it.</blockquote><div> </div><div>I don't force anybody to use PA and I'd never do that! You ever heard that "linux is about choice"? If you don't like what your current distro offers you, get another. If none of the hundreds of distros gives you what you want, build your own. Nobody forces you to use PA! <br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im"><br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> PA! Although the setup is not perfect, I am able to playback and record<br> sound, and this has been the case with every Ubuntu version until today. I<br> </blockquote> <br></div> Well, yes, so what? I could do this with ALSA as well without problems, hack, that worked even with OSS.</blockquote><div><br>Congratulations! But once again, I've just been talking about personal experiences that are contrary to that of other users. So what exactly is your point here? <br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im"><br> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> It is totally normal that such a transition comes at a cost, but it seems that some people don't understand that or are not willing to pay it. Maybe I am not the right person to judge them though, since I work <br> </blockquote> <br></div> Maybe because they should pay but are getting nothing that they need? So why should they pay? I know people who are hating PA, because it breaks their sound system (they can’t play music and flash at the same time, while it works with ALSA).<br> </blockquote><div><br>Seems like I have to repeat myself: if you don't want to use PA, than don't use it! If you don't use it, you don't have to pay!<br><br>It's kind of scary to receive such an offensive response after doing nothing but giving some positive feedback to some guys that imho are doing a good job. You really should accept the idea that other people like things that you don't like! And you also should realise that you are NOT "forced" to use any open source software! That'll make your live a little bit easier...<br> <br>Regards<br><br>JK<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <br> Shade and sweet water!<br> <br> Stephan<br><font color="#888888"> <br> -- <br> | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: <a href="mailto:stse@fsing.rootsland.net" target="_blank">stse@fsing.rootsland.net</a> |<br> | PGP Public Keys: <a href="http://fsing.rootsland.net/%7Estse/pgp.html" target="_blank">http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/pgp.html</a> |<br> </font><br>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br> Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)<br> <br> iEYEARECAAYFAkrchFEACgkQXse+NwPOAZ5HYwCfSyj3jGHxPL0j9z2CgHIMztcN<br> s8EAoKUEh1iOsGTGCo+Isa1FTwuqVj+8<br> =Y/m/<br> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<br> <br>_______________________________________________<br> pulseaudio-discuss mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:pulseaudio-discuss@mail.0pointer.de">pulseaudio-discuss@mail.0pointer.de</a><br> <a href="https://tango.0pointer.de/mailman/listinfo/pulseaudio-discuss" target="_blank">https://tango.0pointer.de/mailman/listinfo/pulseaudio-discuss</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br>