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Fri Jun 4 09:12:15 PDT 2010


key benefits to spice is that it allows for some local rendering of
graphics.  If you don't have any local hardware capable of doing the fancy
math required to render the graphics locally, then you might as well not us=
e
spice.

Also, even though the Power Supply on this package is 250W, it should draw
only ~50W during operation (based on the board).  You can cut that down to
~25-27W with an Nvidia ION board (but the initial cost is higher).  I
understand both of these draw way more than ~5W, but you get the graphics
processing power you need to make spice really shine.  It's hard to put any
real graphics rendering capability in a 5W machine.

Greg

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Igor Neves <igor at 3gnt.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> All that hardware it's very nice and shiny, but it breaks all my thoughts
> about thin clients.
>
> Thin client =3D low cost, low or none support, easy deploy, easy manageme=
nt
> and the most important, <5W electric power consumption.
>
> The most important it's the electricity in now our days, buying something
> with 250W power supply, it's completely out of my plans. When you are
> deploying something big (it's our intention), you can see a lot of
> investment getting back with electric power consumption, and you pay your
> investment faster. That makes your solution's easier to sell, how fast yo=
ur
> product gives money to your client, it's the key to your success.
>
> Something like this, I think makes a lot more sense
> http://www.igep-platform.com/index.php?option=3Dcom_content&view=3Darticl=
e&id=3D46&Itemid=3D55
>
> Cheers,
>
> Em 04-06-2010 15:54, Gregory Dulin escreveu:
>
>  Sorry, the mailing list seems to have stripped all that fancy HTML stuff=
.
>> Here's the important part
>>
>>
>>
>> Rendition by Crucial 1GB 200-Pin DDR2 SO-DIMM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Laptop
>> Memory <http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=3DN82E1682014823=
7>
>> Item #:N82E16820148237
>> Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
>> $22.99 1
>>
>> Rosewill RS-MI-01 BK Black Computer
>> Case<http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=3DN82E16811147131>
>> Item #: N82E16811147131
>> Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
>>
>> Foxconn D41S Intel Atom D410 Mini ITX Motherboard/CPU
>> Combo<http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=3DN82E16813186195>
>> Item #: N82E16813186195
>> Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
>> -$18.00 Instant
>> -$10.00 Combo
>> $129.98
>> $101.98*
>> Grand Total:* $124.97
>>
>>
>>
> --
> Igor Neves<igor.neves at 3gnt.net>
> 3GNTW - Tecnologias de Informa=E7=E3o, Lda
>
>  SIP: igor at 3gnt.net
>  MSN: igor at 3gnt.net
>  JID: igor at 3gnt.net
>  PSTN: 00351 252377120
>
>
>

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I like that board.=A0 It&#39;s so tiny!<br><br>Here are some things you sho=
uld
 note, though, if you&#39;re looking at making good use of spice.<br><br>Fr=
om
 what I understand (someone please correct me if I&#39;m wrong), one of the=
=20
key benefits to spice is that it allows for some local rendering of=20
graphics.=A0 If you don&#39;t have any local hardware capable of doing the=
=20
fancy math required to render the graphics locally, then you might as=20
well not use spice.<br>
<br>Also, even though the Power Supply on this package is 250W, it=20
should draw only ~50W during operation (based on the board).=A0 You can=20
cut that down to ~25-27W with an Nvidia ION board (but the initial cost=20
is higher).=A0 I understand both of these draw way more than ~5W, but you=
=20
get the graphics processing power you need to make spice really shine.=A0=
=20
It&#39;s hard to put any real graphics rendering capability in a 5W machine=
.<br>
<br>Greg<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 8:39 AM, =
Igor Neves <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:igor at 3gnt.net">igor at 3gnt=
.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding=
-left: 1ex;">

Hi,<br>
<br>
All that hardware it&#39;s very nice and shiny, but it breaks all my though=
ts about thin clients.<br>
<br>
Thin client =3D low cost, low or none support, easy deploy, easy management=
 and the most important, &lt;5W electric power consumption.<br>
<br>
The most important it&#39;s the electricity in now our days, buying somethi=
ng with 250W power supply, it&#39;s completely out of my plans. When you ar=
e deploying something big (it&#39;s our intention), you can see a lot of in=
vestment getting back with electric power consumption, and you pay your inv=
estment faster. That makes your solution&#39;s easier to sell, how fast you=
r product gives money to your client, it&#39;s the key to your success.<br>


<br>
Something like this, I think makes a lot more sense <a href=3D"http://www.i=
gep-platform.com/index.php?option=3Dcom_content&amp;view=3Darticle&amp;id=
=3D46&amp;Itemid=3D55" target=3D"_blank">http://www.igep-platform.com/index=
.php?option=3Dcom_content&amp;view=3Darticle&amp;id=3D46&amp;Itemid=3D55</a=
><br>


<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Em 04-06-2010 15:54, Gregory Dulin escreveu:<div><div></div><div class=3D"h=
5"><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Sorry, the mailing list seems to have stripped all that fancy HTML stuff. H=
ere&#39;s the important part<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Rendition by Crucial 1GB 200-Pin DDR2 SO-DIMM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Laptop<br=
>
Memory &lt;<a href=3D"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=3DN82=
E16820148237" target=3D"_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?=
item=3DN82E16820148237</a>&gt;<br>
Item #:N82E16820148237<br>
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy<br>
$22.99 1<br>
<br>
Rosewill RS-MI-01 BK Black Computer<br>
Case&lt;<a href=3D"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=3DN82E16=
811147131" target=3D"_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?ite=
m=3DN82E16811147131</a>&gt;<br>
Item #: N82E16811147131<br>
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy<br>
<br>
Foxconn D41S Intel Atom D410 Mini ITX Motherboard/CPU<br>
Combo&lt;<a href=3D"http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=3DN82E1=
6813186195" target=3D"_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?it=
em=3DN82E16813186195</a>&gt;<br>
Item #: N82E16813186195<br>
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy<br>
-$18.00 Instant<br>
-$10.00 Combo<br>
$129.98<br>
$101.98*<br>
Grand Total:* $124.97<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div></div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">
-- <br>
Igor Neves&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:igor.neves at 3gnt.net" target=3D"_blank">igor=
.neves at 3gnt.net</a>&gt;<br>
3GNTW - Tecnologias de Informa=E7=E3o, Lda<br>
<br>
=A0SIP: <a href=3D"mailto:igor at 3gnt.net" target=3D"_blank">igor at 3gnt.net</a=
><br>
=A0MSN: <a href=3D"mailto:igor at 3gnt.net" target=3D"_blank">igor at 3gnt.net</a=
><br>
=A0JID: <a href=3D"mailto:igor at 3gnt.net" target=3D"_blank">igor at 3gnt.net</a=
><br>
=A0PSTN: 00351 252377120<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br>

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