<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">OK - this sounds very good.<div>If you can think of any more or more specifics just let me know.</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On May 4, 2011, at 3:41 AM, Christophe Fergeau wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 05:32:12PM -0500, Cliff Sharp wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">So, now I use the X11 environment that comes with osx when I actually run<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">spiced and/or spicy. But I feel you are correct in saying that it is<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">better to use the X11 system that comes with osx.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I was just attempting to notify others of these issues in hopes that it<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">might help them to save some time.<br></blockquote><br>Ah ok, thanks for that, I thought you wanted to fix things on the macports<br>X side :) Since spice-gtk-x11 on osx isn't that interesting to me (I'd<br>rather have a more native port using gtk-osx), if it works with Apple X11,<br>I'd leave it at that :)<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Do you feel it is worth the time to build an Xcode project for building<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">spicec and spice-gtk to distribute?  The visual debugger is sure nice in<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Xcode.<br></blockquote><br>I wouldn't spend too much time on an Xcode project for spicec. It might be<br>useful for spice-gtk, but it might be too early for that. In my opinion,<br>what would be really nice is<br>* a working spice-gtk using gtk-osx (spice-gtk currently has X11/windows<br>  specific bits that needs to be ported)<br>* when we have that, having some kind of bundle that people can install to<br>  use in xcode would be great (I think the gtk-osx project has some tools<br>  to help in doing that)<br>* longer term, a cocoa spice client (probably using spice-client-glib for<br>  the low-level spice stuff) would be even better (I assume this would ease<br>  iOS porting)<br><br>Christophe<br></div></blockquote></div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#8CC63F"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">____</font></div><div><br></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Lucida Sans'"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#005581"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="LucidaSans-Demi" size="2"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px; ">Cliff Sharp</span></font></font><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#8CC63F"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>|</span></font></font><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; "> </span></font><font class="Apple-style-span" face="LucidaSans-Demi" size="2"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px; "><a href="mailto:csharp@vbridges.com">csharp@vbridges.com</a></span></font></font></font></div><div><br></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div> <br></div></body></html>