[systemd-devel] setting up to allow separate udev and systemd builds

[Kok, Auke-jan H]

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 1:40 PM, William Hubbs <w.d.hubbs at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:54:36AM -0700, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote:
>> 3. Don't provide split udev/systemd packages and stay on udev-182 (or
>> whatever the version was before the split).
>>
>> Now, I've been involved with a source-based distro myself for almost 12
>> years, and, at one point you just have to sell "no" to people who want every
>> kitchen sink.
>
> That is exactly my point. There are people in these distros who see
> systemd as a kitchen sink they don't want. However, udev is more like
> coreutils, which they need.

or pick mdev

>> Just because you're a source distro, doesn't mean that you should be bleeding
>> edge, and force upstream to potentially break the build for everyone already.
>
> Again you make my point for me. There are folks who see systemd as
> bleeding edge and are not comfortable running it, but they still need
> udev.

and can stay on udev-182.

>  Define how this forces upstream to break the build. The default state
>  of my patches is to leave things as they are unless you mess with the
>  two added configure switches. I do not see how this breaks anything.
>
>> I'm no fan of these patches, and I'm less of a fan of them appearing *now*. Keep
>> them in the refrigerator for 3 months, then post them.
>
> Why do you hate these patches so much? Like I said, I made sure not to
> change the default state, so if you don't mess with the configure
> switches you don't change anything.

I don't hate them. I think the timing is inappropriate. I don't like
multiple Makefile.am's though - that's bound to be problematic further
on.

Nothing prevents you from staying on udev-182 for a few more
weeks/months. You're not missing that much.

Auke