Hi Lennart. <div class="gmail_quote">2012/6/21 Lennart Poettering <<a href="mailto:lennart@poettering.net" target="_blank">lennart@poettering.net</a>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div class="im">On Wed, 20.06.12 22:23, Antonio Trande (<a href="mailto:anto.trande@gmail.com">anto.trande@gmail.com</a>) wrote: > 'Offline System Updates' will come as feature for Fedora 18. Reading your </div>> official page <<a href="http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/SystemUpdates" target="_blank">http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/SystemUpdates</a>>: <div class="im">> > The system update script now creates a btrfs snapshot (if possible), then > > installs all RPMs. After completion (regardless whether the update > > succeeded or failed) the /system-update symlink is removed. In addition, on > > failure it reverts to the old btrfs state (modulo the aforementioned > > symlink), on success it leaves the newly made changes in place. > > > > BTRFS ? Will 'Offline Updates' be available only with BTRFS ? </div>Nope. But on btrfs we'll make a snapshot of the old system state. On non-btrfs we won't. </blockquote><div> Maybe BTRFS will be the default filesystem in Fedora 18, therefore all that make sense. If i use EXT4, are snapshots (that are a guarantee if update fails) not available ? This automation of updates could be difficulty manageable. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <div class="im"> > How will be managed all kernel modules come from extra Fedora repositories > (like RPMFusion) ? </div>I no way different thn the Fedora packages. </blockquote><div> Explain myself: could happen that updates from extra repos are not syncronized with Fedora repositories. This could thwart often the 'Offline updates' result. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <div class="im"> > Will be possible disable completely 'Offline System Updates' ? </div>It's how pkgkit will do upgrades. THis has no effect on yum or anything else, it will continue to work as before. <div class="im"> > > 1 The system is rebooted twice. > > > This is a very inconvenient. The short boot times obtained with systemd are > useless if every update (frequent in Fedora) needs of twice reboot. </div>Well, whether the system is rebooted once or twice is hardly noticable i would argue... </blockquote><div> To get back my desktop to work after one reboot is not the same thing compared to the twice reboot. :) Are you disagree ? </div></div> -- Antonio Trande "Fedora Ambassador" mail: <a style="color:rgb(153,153,153)" href="mailto:sagitter@fedoraproject.org" title="mailto:sagitter@fedoraproject.org" target="_blank">mailto:sagitter@fedoraproject.org</a> Homepage: <a style="color:rgb(153,153,153)" href="http://www.fedora-os.org" title="http://www.computer-legacy.net" target="_blank">http://www.fedora-os.org</a> Sip Address : sip:sagitter AT <a href="http://ekiga.net" target="_blank">ekiga.net</a> <a href="http://jabber.org/" title="http://jabber.org" target="_blank">Jabber</a> :sagitter AT <a style="color:rgb(153,153,153)" href="http://jabber.org" target="_blank">jabber.org</a> GPG Key: 19E6DF27