<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Hey, i always thought systemd is Using dbus Messaging but not rely or depends on the DBUS daemon? Why a crash has such</div><div>An impact on a system? </div><div><br></div><div>Is it because of the desktop is started this way or because the communications is broken totally?</div><div><br></div><div>Many thanks for advise.<br><br><div>--</div><div><br></div><div>Holger Winkelmann</div><div>Travelping GmbH</div><div>+49-171-5594745</div><div><br></div><div>### Sent from a mobile device. Sorry for brevity and typos... ###</div></div><div><br>On 27.01.2013, at 22:39, "Francesco Riosa (Google+)" <<a href="mailto:noreply-1feb779d@plus.google.com">noreply-1feb779d@plus.google.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="border:solid 1px #dfdfdf;color:#686868;font:13px Arial"><div style="background-color:#fff;padding:20px;"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding-right:15px;vertical-align:top"><a href="https://plus.google.com/_/notifications/ngemlink?&emid=CPiOnqqbgrUCFYgo3godqCgAAA&path=%2F113237307210359236747&dt=1359072427746&uob=8"><img style="border:solid 1px #cccccc;" width="75" height="75" src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4YLKn80QSk0/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAfk/6eQV96yCC6s/s75-c-k-a/photo.jpg"></a></td><td style="width:578px;color:#333;font:13px Arial;vertical-align:top"><div style="padding-bottom:10px">It's really nice when dbus crash on a <span class="proflinkWrapper"><span class="proflinkPrefix">+</span><a href="https://plus.google.com/104232583922197692623" class="proflink" oid="104232583922197692623">systemd</a></span> started system, the desktop (kde) obviously is broken but you loose the console too.<br>Why? because system start them on demand, but cannot work w/o dbus so Ctrl+Alt+F2 bring you to nowhere ...<br>Ctrl+Alt+Canc? No way systemd is locked<br>Solution? Hard reboot, if the kernel is compiled with some magic press Ctrl+print+S for an emergency sync of the disk, followed by Ctrl+print+B to reboot.<br>How it happened? 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