<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/22/2014 12:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:5420110D.5030407@thelounge.net" type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> Am 22.09.2014 um 13:45 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: </pre> <blockquote type="cite" style="color: #000000;"> <pre wrap="">> On 09/22/2014 11:40 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite" style="color: #000000;"> <pre wrap="">>> Am 22.09.2014 um 13:28 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: </pre> <blockquote type="cite" style="color: #000000;"> <pre wrap="">>>> On 09/22/2014 09:23 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite" style="color: #000000;"> <pre wrap="">>>>> Am 22.09.2014 um 01:48 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: </pre> <blockquote type="cite" style="color: #000000;"> <pre wrap="">>>>>> The reason for increased log entries in the journal is that more things >>>>> are happening now since this is what happening when a job is run. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">>>>> that don't change the fact that a user not acting as >>>> systemd-developer and not debugging his system don't >>>> need that flood </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">>>> I guess we have different meaning of message flood </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">>> again: we talk about rsyslog, like it or not </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">> > Then file a bug report against rsyslog and provide a patch which fixes > the default log filtering in Fedora to your expectation but leave > systemd out of it. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">wow - in any other case the systemd developers saying that they don't workround things because problems has to be solved at the root-cause - practice what you preach and make the log-verbosility configureable!</pre> </blockquote> Serves no purpose whatsoever doing that. <blockquote cite="mid:5420110D.5030407@thelounge.net" type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> * rsyslog is *not* responsible for the message flood produced by systemd</pre> </blockquote> No but it is responsible for the filtering <-- of log messages. <blockquote cite="mid:5420110D.5030407@thelounge.net" type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> * systemd is the one producing it without prefixes </pre> </blockquote> This is simply untrue as "journalctl -o export" will show you. I suggest you stop blaming systemd for your own administrative incompetence and broken implementation of rsyslog and syslog-ng in Fedora ( I tried to get it fixed before we defaulted to journal YES IT WAS BROKEN BEFORE AND STILL IS but was not allowed to do so thank those Red Hatters in the governing body's of Fedora ( FESCO/FPC ) for it's brokeness ) and write an rsyslog template suited for your environment which will filter things to your liking and expectation or better yet complain to those FESCO/FPC members since they need to learn a hard lesson of accepting responsibility for their own actions in the distribution. You can find how to write an rsyslog template in the upstream rsyslog documentation using it's powerful filtering capabilities and by looking at for example the one spice-vdagentd /etc/rsyslog.d/spice-vdagentd.conf in Fedora. JBG </body> </html>