<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/20/2014 06:48 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:546E3776.1070500@thelounge.net" type="cite"> Am 20.11.2014 um 19:41 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: <blockquote type="cite">On 11/20/2014 06:27 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: <blockquote type="cite"> what you asked don't matter since this is a *developer list* and so no place where a RHEL customer with support is expected to jump blindly and try unsupported packages </blockquote> Right which makes this not the place to ask for this either. ( should be asked in downstream community's surrounding RHEL and it's clones ) </blockquote> * if "downstream" is oudated you shout * if "downstream" tries to change that you shout * if a user from downstream asks something you shout </blockquote> You do realize that you are speaking of an *enterprise* distribution which maintains things based on their business model ( which usually does not involve the latest and the greatest from upstream ) and is driven by their customer demands. upstream has no business criticizing or otherwise interfere with their business model. <blockquote cite="mid:546E3776.1070500@thelounge.net" type="cite"> <blockquote type="cite"> <blockquote type="cite"> <blockquote type="cite">Red Hat should be supplying it's own QA resources to test it's own and upcoming RHEL product releases instead of be reaching out to the community *to do it for them* and leach of it + he does not mention, if you intend on testing this on RHEL if it breaks your RHEL support contract or not ( which most likely it does ) hence the question </blockquote> no idea from where your personal vendetta against Redhat is coming (not only in that response, over years, everywhere) but why don't you just ignore anything containing the company name? </blockquote> My personal vendetta against Red Hat spurs from their attitude and repeated misuse of contributors time in projects like Fedora but that's irrelevant here. </blockquote> your definition of "misuse" is just broken </blockquote> You mean does not match yours and my vendetta with Red Hat is irrelevant and off topic for this list including your view on it. <blockquote cite="mid:546E3776.1070500@thelounge.net" type="cite"> <blockquote type="cite">Encase you somehow missed it, the systemd project has been heavinly criticized for being a Red Hat only project </blockquote> not only - also for be hostile in responses to anybody asking something without provide code - as you do here again </blockquote> I asked <a href="https://plus.google.com/105356781107927668523" class="ob tv Ub Hf" rel="nofollow" oid="105356781107927668523">Lukáš</a> a simple question if running this on your enterprises licensed distribution would not break the support contract with Red Hat and <a href="https://plus.google.com/105356781107927668523" class="ob tv Ub Hf" rel="nofollow" oid="105356781107927668523">Lukáš</a> already has plethora of code in systemd. In addition to that you do realize you as an RHEL tester not being paid by Red Hat or any other enterprise distribution either are spending your own dime paying for an licences or you are misusing your corporate supplied licence when doing so. Personally I think it's illogical that Red Hat customer spending their time and money paying Red Hat to ask them to test and tell them if *their* product works. <blockquote cite="mid:546E3776.1070500@thelounge.net" type="cite"> <blockquote type="cite">and it's members heavily flamed publicly due to that and it makes no wonder if people get that notion when RHEL employees treat it like internal company project </blockquote> by just asking upstream developers to have a look? really? </blockquote> Yes really more than you can image JBG </body> </html>